Pinigis 

The instructions should have been in the case, but I will email you a PDF to be sure that you have what you need.

Lil Bear

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just that the original poster can see that there are actually also other than origami trailers available :-)

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That bicycle and the trailer will fit inside the case?

Pinigis 

[QUOTE=Lil Bear;18088457]I would love to see photos of bike and trailer packed in the bag. Can you provide photos, or a link?

ThorUSA

[QUOTE=Pinigis;18088795]Oh yeah I forgot the OP was just making a shameless plug about the product he is selling ....
Must have thinking it was about trailers in general and not the ORIGAMI trailer posted by ORIGAMI

sorry about that...

and no the bike and the trailer don't fit together in the pictured bag

Pinigis 

I prefer to think that I am helping to inform people of the options that exist for folding bikes. There are plenty of options out there, and we are just a one. I do like the trailer that you posted, especially the larger wheels.

Lil Bear

[QUOTE=ThorUSA;18089639]Yes, the topic was trailers that could fit a bike... from what I've found Origami and Bike Friday make trailer kits that can fit one of their bikes. That being said, I feel like a trailer can add a ton of utility, and seems to be a relatively untapped market. There's trailers out there, but most I've found seem to be cost-prohibitive. The one you posted looks like it would be quite useful. Maybe not for a plane trip, but for a Costco run or such... and having a platform adds options.

UberIM

What is a B and W case?

1nterceptor

https://www.amazon.com/Folding-Bike-C.../dp/B00A3VLYLK

Ride-Fly

Hey Paul Pingis, do you know if the case would fit a Brampton with its wheels off? To compare apples to apples, since your case requires you take off the wheels of the Origami 8 bikes. I would seriously buy the a pair of the 3 set combo if I could fit our Bromptons.

Pinigis 

I have never tried to put a Brompton in one of our cases. If you can get the Brompton down to 30 x 20 x 11.75", then it will fit.

sdwphoto

And here is just such an option Paul is talking about. I was in London in 2008 before I even knew what a folding bike was or how useful they can be.One thing I learned on that trip was to travel light and simple and carry double the money.I now have a Brompton and would like to ride the length of England with a simple ,adaptable trailer set up useing the B&W hard case sometimes on the trailer and sometimes without.I also want it to be as simple and light weight as possible. The only problem is the trailers that are available today to fit the B&w are to big, to heavy,to costly and won't fit inside the hard case along with a Brompton. Origami's trailer kit was the only one that makes the whole thing work,It's well made and easy to put together, weighs only 6lb, and fits neatly inside the B&W case along with my Brompton and still comes under the 50lb limit.It also has a very good hitch that fits on the Brompton's rear axle without any thing more than a wrench and a few minutes work.It's only drawback is the B&w case is to big to fit between the trailer's wheels.
I contacted Paul Pinigis and asked if a wider version could be made to order, but he explained due to the arrangement with the kit supplier only one size is available.At only $89 delivered,I still ordered one anyway just to see if something could be worked out to make it work. I considered having new axle rods made to increase the width between the wheels ,but realized if I just raise the hard case above the wheels I would be in busness.I thought of several arrangements that would work and look good, but all would be to expensive and to heavy.In the end I went the simple route and strapped my carry on luggage to the trailer's frame using one of Brompton's front bag frames to make it easy to hook straps to and give the luggage a light weight surface to sit on.
I put the B&W case on top and strapped it down with bunge straps with three inchs of clearance above the wheels.I did several 5 mile rides with only having to stop and reattach a strap a few times.I also rode down a two block alleyway with pot holes ,cracked and bumpy pavement,etc.It still needs a few problems ironed out but the basic idea is sound.
Just for fun I even put the hard case on the trailer verticaly instead of horizontal and rode down the alleyway and back home about three miles on a city street with a good wind comeing off the ocean(I live in Long Beach,ca).I was worried at first it would blow the whole arrangment over but other than a few gusts it worked well.
I have also tried strapping the B&w on just the Brompton's rear rack with the trailer inside the case. I may find myself only a short distance from my hotel and don't want to take the time toset up the entire rig .It stands vertically across the rack and straps to both the seat post and the rack.It works and the bike handles well,but still needs work on the best strapping methode(no doubt a solid framing could be worked out but I want to keep the weight and expense down).I have done several 5mile rides with this set up on city streets,the alleyway and beach bike paths.One thing I notice is that going into the wind with such a flat area is not as bad as i first thought, my body is blocking most of the wind with only the case edges sticking out behind me and causeing drag,but it's still possible to do a steady 10mph. Going home with a good tail wind against such a large flat area as a sail really adds to the speed.

I don't think this would fit everyone's idea of a viable set up for long distance touring ,but who knows, if you don't try something you never find out,so I am still going to see if it can be improved to include touring and still keep it simple and inexpensive.
I have attached some pictures but don't have any yet of the B&W on the rear rack but will add some if there is enough interest.Also,if anyone has any ideas on improveing it I would be interested in hearing them.

Pinigis 

@sdwphoto: I like the minimalist look of the backpack on the trailer frame! I love to see what happens when someone thinks outside the box; I hadn't considered elevating the case above the wheels.

badmother

Thank you for posting this!

Your pictures made me think (yet again) on the Carry Freedom City trailer. On that trailer you can carry the Brompton box on top becouse the 12" wheels are under the top "platform" of the trailer.

Also I am thinking it is about time somebody make a trailer kit for the Brompton boxes.

We made similar trailers and I remember that what you really need is the wheels, the short axels (at least if you want quick rellease axels) and a towbar. The rest is not so hard to make. I remember we used the top part of the stem of a kick scooter. Remowe the two short handlebars that can be pushed in from each side on the top and thread your axel trough. It is best if the axel can be in one piece or it can easely bend back when riding with it loaded and you end up with a light V shape and the trailer is heavy ro pull. I also remember I kept the small springs with the button that is holding the handlebars in place an reused them somewhere on the trailer.

Carry Freedom Website | 3. The CITY Trailer - Carry Freedom Website

1nterceptor

I see a lot of Brompton owners on this thread:

Suitcase

badmother

This is a good trailer, we own both the small and the large. If you compare them to the trailers discussed in this thread the wheels can be "too big" for traveling light. I found that on the small trailer you can actually use 12" wheels and that can some times be a great advantage. You can also use the 16" wheels on the large size trailer (instead of the 20") when size matters.

I found that if you insert the towbar with the hitch part pointing up (a 90 degree turn from what it should be) and drill a new hole and insert the pin again the trailer is more than usable as a handcart. Especially if you have fitted smaller wheels than it is designed for this is a good idea to avoid lifting it too high in the front (and hitting the ground at the back).

I have found several pictures of modifications to the trailer on flickr. Some peopel have atatched a suitcase on top of the flat bed and some have remowed the plywood and have atatched the frame directly to a suitcase.

With the right size box/trailer the frame can also be fitted innside so you atatch the quick release axels to the frame that is innside box/case trough a small hole in the side.

It can be modifyed with a long addition to the towbar to tow a canoe or other long items.

https://www.flickr.com/search/?text=...edom%20trailer

sdwphoto

In the photos it shows a Brompton bag frame used as a flat base to rest on, clamped to the trailer frame.i have since discovered you don't even need that if you are using the carry on luggage with wheels and a handle.The luggage has a solid base and if you put bag on the axle with the bottem just behind the axle the bag's bottem forms a lip that stops the bag from sliding forward and makes it very stable once you stap it down.It also does away with having to take the time and labor to clamp Brompton luggage frame on.
My goal is to have a trailer system that i can set up in different ways to suit the situation.I can't see having to take my B&W case if I don't need it.I haven't tried it yet but I even think your trailer could be disassembled and packed inside just a carry on.

sdwphoto

I would be interested to see any photos of the trailer you made, "Good designers design, great ones steal other peoples ideas"
I am also aware of the Carry Freedom city trailer and would have bought one without hesitation except they stopped making them about 2012 it was a very good and interesting design,they say they will start making it again in 2017(maybe?).

also your right someone should make something to carry the Brompton travel case,.its' the only thing i would trust my Brompton to when flying and once there it turns into a problem trying to store if you're not staying in one location.Yes you can rent places to store them,but in England that can cost quite abit.

badmother

Not sure if our work is fit for pix and posting public

A few years since they were in use. I need to dig into the shed one of these days.

fietsbob

As I understand they Carry Freedom in Scotland, had a contract Build with a Taiwan Company (who Doesn't these days?)

the Bike Shop Hub seller in Arizona (where I bought Mine) said they wanted him to make a commitment

to buy a pretty big lot of them and when he balked at that .. they, It appears, Did Not, on their own,
make a commitment to order another batch Made, with out that big wholesale customer
committed for taking a Bunch Of them..

badmother

On the website they say they are concentrating on the Leaf trailer, ment for use it citys. Maybe there is a bigger demand for this type of trailer. Ca`nt blame them for needing to sell the stuff they produce.

Carry Freedom Website | 4. The LEAF - Carry Freedom Website

sdwphoto

several months back I contacted Carry Freedoms US distributor about trying to locate the city trailer somewhere in the US.I was told they no longer were making it because of mechanical problems and constant break downs.It sounded a bit fishy to me because when ever I tried to squeeze a word in the person on the other end just kept talking about the new leaf which he said was designed to fix all the problems with the City Trailer.I just hung up on him.Tell me have you had any major problems with your trailer and do you use it alot when touring ,etc.Also, would you know where to contact in Scotland where they are still sell them.

badmother

I guess they put a lot of money into stuff and are desperate to not "go down". My friend has one. He never reported any break downs. Fietsbob has one. Can not remember him reporting breakdowns. Maybe in hard use. The design is a bit special so not the easyest to make so that it is durable. I remember trying to make one once and gave up. Been thinking before that there should be a "want to buy" option on e-bay, not just "for sale". Also It should be possible to do a search for ads even in other countrys. Try different search engines.

Are you still looking for one?

fietsbob

Picture I recall seeing Len Rubin got CF-C replica made in Titanium , to go with his Ultimate Folding Bike prototype,
which was an oversize titanium tubed Brompton..

never went past making just one..

invisiblehand

On Facebook, he just shared a picture of a trailer that converts into a porteur rack for his UFB (custom Brompton).

fietsbob

He is in 100+ bike shop dozen+ frame builder Portland and can get anything Made,