gdlerner

Hi guys
I own a BF NWT with rohloff the bike is from 2006 and still doing good the only thing is that I canīt use wide tires like 2,0.I contacted BF to se if I can change the front fork and rear triangle and its only possible to change the front fork for me does not made any sense.The company donīt sell frames so they offer me I can send my bike and they change to a new pocket llama frame,but this is very expensive,better I buy a new bike( they want 260 for instal the old parts to a new frame +1098 for the frame+shipping a new bike like the diamont tourist cost less)
Does anybody know a 20" steel folding frame that will accept wide tires and rohloff?
Thanks

invisiblehand

From what I observe, there are a bunch of folks using 2.0" tires with the NWT. Typically sans fenders -- but not all -- and they have to partially deflate the tires to get them past the brakes. A quick test should tell you whether this option is feasible.

invisiblehand

Otherwise, a steel swift folder or dahon speed will both fit 2.0 tires ... from memory.

gdlerner

NWT accept maximun1,75 and I need.to deflate this tires already

fietsbob

Jur's Titanium Swift contact is Making Custom Titanium Frames in the small ordered batches in China , around either 451 or 406 20" wheels ..
maybe get in the Queue on the next Batch?
OR how about BF's Silk? you can go Gates belt on it too, or just eliminate the chain-tensioner ...

I have a R'off Pocket Llama a 20-1.75 tire must be deflated to get it Out of the rear. Radial clearance w Mudguards.. Rolling Its OK .
I think of it as rear wheel PITA security..

What do expect to gain from that extra 0,25" of wider tyre?

gdlerner

the pocket llama frame is a little highter then nwt and with.wide.tires will be better on rought terrain,or I am wrong?

invisiblehand

Just to be clear since I can interpret your response a few ways, I understand those are the old specs. I'm writing that there are lots of folks with bigger tires on their NWTs. I've personally put a BMX tire labeled 1.85" on mine built in 2007 with room to spare: with my caliper I measured the tire at 48 mm wide. You might be able to avoid a lot of expense with some experimentation if you have not done so already.

Good luck.

gdlerner

I just say to get the tires out or on the bike I need to deflate them and I am using now at the moment schwalbe 1,75,just put new ones so maybe next time i will try to go for wider tires

invisiblehand

It's always hard for me to tell from photos but ...

Obviously, with fenders you will have less clearance. My guess from my own bike is that 2.0" tires (50 mm) with fenders will cause rubbing if anything is not perfect. Are you willing to ride sans fenders? If you must have fenders, then I would only experiment if you can try for free since I doubt it would work. Good luck!

fietsbob

Yea the Llama fork is more uni-crown so has more tire clearance, blades curve inward on the top ..

+ the Llama frame's BB height is taller than the NWT . I pull to the curb at stoplights to put my foot down, still in the Saddle ,

or slide off ahead of the saddle when away from the raised curb ..

define your 'rough terrain' .. gravel roads or the Imperial Romanesque Paver stones of the Northern French Spring classics

the 1.5 tire is already wider than they have used on their race bikes. for 100 years ..

How about use 1.5" tires that do fit, and lower the air-pressure in them when the road feels rough?

& pump them up when the pavement surface is better?

gdlerner

fletsbob this is a good idea to lower the air-pressure when the road feels rough ,the thing is that when we ordered our bikes on 2006 the german importer got the wrong bikes but in this moment we feel in love and we kept the bikes but with the times we travel more and did many rought roads like ruta 40 in Argentina and thast the reason I was checking if I can upgrade the bikes but its not possible so we must live like this

HGR3inOK

FWIW, in your picture, your brake caliper does not appear to be fully released.

-HANK RYAN-
Norman, Oklahoma USA

fietsbob

Yes Unhook the cable housing/noodle, from the arm without the cable anchor Bolt.


My Buddy Took his old Bike friday down to Argentina a couple years ago .

gdlerner

I know that

fietsbob

Magura HS 22 or 33 would be an excellent Brake upgrade on V brake Bikes & they're made in Germany where you are.

gdlerner

I prefer to keep the v brakes ,I have magura on the other touring bike patria terra Terra: PATRIA - individuelle Fahrräder

fietsbob

Im Eyeing their new skinny tire Magura Brake that bolts on a center bolt hole in fork crown and rear stay bridge..

Too bad the HS 77 road brake levers dont go back in Production ..

gdlerner

Guys if I decide just to change the front fork for the heavy duty is there another alternative to bf original heavy duty fork? The bf will cost me the fork is $95.00 threadless headset parts are $65.00, + shipping (I think I need this part I don t have a threadless headset.

fietsbob

The fork on my Pocket Llama is also threaded , as yours appears to be.. the headset they fitted is Chris King's Grip Nut.. 9/8" size.

their newest designs, since mine, seem to have added the threadless designs . speak to the Manufacturer direct, ask for the steerer tube you need .

and they may build one Just for You, using the prior tooling..

As the wheel is 406 a 20" size shared with BMX bikes perhaps you can find something suitable in the BMX marketplace.

then have all the rack fittings added locally , and repainted/powdercoated, Or just get a whole fork custom made.

gdlerner

fletsbob so you think any bmx fork will work on my bf like this one for example
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Thank you

fietsbob

No Clue ( the fork offset may screw up the steering trail, steerer tube May Be too Short) try a Bike Shop where you Live, for a Test fit of what they Have .

If you only want to Shop Online, Order one custom made for You in the Bike Friday Factory In Eugene Oregon .

invisiblehand

So I just stuck a wheel with a Big Apple into my NWT. Lateral clearance was tight but there was a few mm to both sides. It would not fit my wife's Pocket Crusoe.

invisiblehand

Vertical clearance was very good.

fietsbob

Moulton APB is an alternative, it has suspension of both wheels, and was made to use 406-20" wheels.

GTizzy

If you're looking for a folder that accepts a rohloff, consider the Tern Eclipse Uno: eccentric bottom bracket, lots of tire clearance, but 24" wheels and aluminum frame

https://www.bikeforums.net/folding-bi...-now-wait.html