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    Newbie here looking for your opinion on a few different bikes

    Hi guys, I'm in the market for buying a folding bike because I've relocated to a very dense city (Seoul) and driving here seems ridiculous. I'm planning on using this bike to commute to work which is about 10km (~6miles) and it has to fit in my tiny apartment. I'm about 5'10 and 160lbs and there are some ridiculous hills here. But most of my weekend riding will be along the river.

    I have my eyes on a few of them at the moment. Based on availability, and my budget, I've short listed my choices to the Dahon curve D7 (Akibo), Dahon Vigor P9 and the Giant Expressway 1. The prices among them are somewhat similar. The Curve D7 is roughly $675, P9 at $697, and the Expressway 1 at $520. Ok I guess not as similar as I thought. The Giant folding bike is a lot cheaper .

    I like the look of all of them and they all look portable to me so that's all good. I'm not a big critic or anything like that and I'm pretty clueless in the bike world (up to now I've been riding those costco bikes) but I've been reading a LOT about them for the past week to make my first purchase. So it seems like the major differences (to my knowledge) are that the Dahon has 16inch wheels while the Expressway 1 has 20, and the differences in the gears/speed.

    Expressway 1 ????? 1?! ??? ????? '?????'

    Curve D7 Akibo ?? ??? ?????! ??? ??? ?? ?!

    Vigor P9 ?? ??? ?????! ??? ??? ?? ?!

    Sorry for the long read but now we get down to the ultimate question. What is your opinion on the better buy (bang for the buck)? I'm also open to other suggestions. Durability/reliability is probably the most important factor for me because I'm sick of buying crappy stuff and having to rebuy it again.

    Thanks guys!
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    I thought the Curve had an internal hub, and I would have recommended it. However it is a 7sp external drive train now?? I would be curious if the 7sp is a freewheel or cassette. If it is freewheel I would eliminate that option and go with the Vigor.

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    Vigor P9. 9 speed for the hills, may not be enough, but still better than the other two. And the frame joint is newly designed, it's listed in the high performance category on Dahon's website.

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    Sorry the content in the link is in Korean. Yeah it is a freewheel

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonoh10 View Post
    Hi guys, I'm in the market for buying a folding bike because I've relocated to a very dense city (Seoul) and driving here seems ridiculous. I'm planning on using this bike to commute to work which is about 10km (~6miles) and it has to fit in my tiny apartment. I'm about 5'10 and 160lbs and there are some ridiculous hills here. But most of my weekend riding will be along the river.

    I have my eyes on a few of them at the moment. Based on availability, and my budget, I've short listed my choices to the Dahon curve D7 (Akibo), Dahon Vigor P9 and the Giant Expressway 1. The prices among them are somewhat similar. The Curve D7 is roughly $675, P9 at $697, and the Expressway 1 at $520. Ok I guess not as similar as I thought. The Giant folding bike is a lot cheaper .

    I like the look of all of them and they all look portable to me so that's all good. I'm not a big critic or anything like that and I'm pretty clueless in the bike world (up to now I've been riding those costco bikes) but I've been reading a LOT about them for the past week to make my first purchase. So it seems like the major differences (to my knowledge) are that the Dahon has 16inch wheels while the Expressway 1 has 20, and the differences in the gears/speed.

    Expressway 1 ????? 1?! ??? ????? '?????'

    Curve D7 Akibo ?? ??? ?????! ??? ??? ?? ?!

    Vigor P9 ?? ??? ?????! ??? ??? ?? ?!

    Sorry for the long read but now we get down to the ultimate question. What is your opinion on the better buy (bang for the buck)? I'm also open to other suggestions. Durability/reliability is probably the most important factor for me because I'm sick of buying crappy stuff and having to rebuy it again.

    Thanks guys!
    As long as you are in Korea, have you considered a Samchuly? They are the largest Korean bike maker and actually split off from Kia Motors years back.

    This is a picture of their Lespo folding bike off an eBay ad



    The advantage obviously would be local support and service.

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    vigor all the way
    a pretty nice bike to start out with, but also lots of upgradeable bits and pieces if you ever decide to personalize it

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    I rode the Giant,

    I bought the Dahon Speed P8, In this case, 'Steel Is Real'
    IMO steel/chromoly gives a smoother ride, absorbing more road chatter than aluminum..

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    And I would not consider a 16" wheeled bike because ride was higher than compactness on my priority list..
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShortLegCyclist View Post
    As long as you are in Korea, have you considered a Samchuly? They are the largest Korean bike maker and actually split off from Kia Motors years back.

    This is a picture of their Lespo folding bike off an eBay ad



    The advantage obviously would be local support and service.
    I'm only here for a year because my contract is non-renewable and I will be going back home to Vancouver, Canada. I have considered the Samchuly because they are EVERYWHERE here. Initially I was gonna get one of these because as you mentioned, I thought hey I can get it serviced anywhere here for free, and I'm supporting local business but I'm just not too sure about the durability of these things. But now that you mention it again... I'm gonna take a look at them again

    Thanks for all the input guys I really appreciate it.

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    Hello there, greetings from Ulsan

    Since you were in seoul, it would be nice to check out some strida. Koreans love their strida. and with subways and buses it interact quite nicely.

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