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Old 07-18-15, 11:24 PM
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What's your list of the folding bikes you would buy in the future.

Please share your list of your future bikes and why would you buy them. My list is short and starting from the most preferable. Thanks a lot in advance.

Helix Titanium - Waiting and hoping the project will live
Pacific Cycles Reach T20 - Seems to me it rides a bit closer to regular roadies.
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Another Birdie so as I can put 4 in the boot for family trips

Tempted to get the "who else wants one of these" to see what a reasonable riding bike that has a really small fold adds over mezzo, brompton etc.

Thinking about a diblasi R4 upgrade, or getting one for my mum who wants a bike with upright postion, not many gears. Simple fold but lighter weight would be better. She liked my Dahon curve.

However, I really need to sell 1 or 2 bikes......
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in Theory? a Moulton APB that would take the same setup , wheels and cockpit as my Bike friday-Rohloff

maybe 451 wheels rather than 406.. large Moulton racks, that take the Zzipper fairing up front..

Vapor ? The ALL titanium UFB.

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Originally Posted by fietsbob
in Theory? a Moulton APB that would take the same setup , wheels and cockpit as my Bike friday-Rohloff

maybe 451 wheels rather than 406.. large Moulton racks, that take the Zzipper fairing up front..
What's so special about Moulton APB in particular? For me it looks so busy with all the bars all over.
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the subtle dual suspension and the busy but rigid truss frame .. they also made a less triangulated , but still dual suspension

in CoOperation with Bridgestone of Japan. but the APB was Made around 20" wheels .

the earlier ones a proprietaty size that back then only Wolber made.. for Sir Alex's company..

the other Theoretical The main Brompton frame parts in Ti... the fork & rear portions are already made..

But I'm OK with the steel M3L I own.

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• A Brompton. I don't need one. But after seeing and riding one, at some point I just may have to have a Brommie. I could stay perfectly amused if all I ever did was fold and unfold it.

• A Ti Swift. In a few months I'll be "re-pondering" this. They are beautiful, and by accounts thus far fine bikes to ride. I may have to find a way to see/ride one.
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Maybe a white one or,,,a deep blue..



I cannot Imagine a better Folder that what I have

8 speed gives a very nice gear Inch range, I would not want a 7 speed.
My Fat tires soak up road bumps, I can curb hop without fear of wheel damage.
It's true what they say ya know,,,,, 'Steel Is Real' No noticeable road chatter with Chromoly steel.
I tried an aluminum folder with faster/narrower tires, did not like it at all.
I can go plenty fast for me, I keep up with regular people on regular bikes without worry.
I would not spend more for a folder than I did,,$599 was plenty.
I will never race one of these little bikes.

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I'd like to find another Mezzo D10(wish I hadn't sold mine). Also considering upgrading to a superlight Brommie since I work for a shop that's a dealer now.
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One of each make and model
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For the ride, I am partial to the Bike Friday line of bikes. Lots to choose from; not sure what model I would want or need in the future.

Having said that, the Moulton that my wife has is a lot of fun to open and close. A lot of times, people have thought it was "broken."
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I've had a few folders now like Dahon's Curve, Dove, Mantis, Silvertip, and Strida 5.
I really loved the fast ride of the Silvertip but it was too bulky to travel with so I sold it.
I can't fly with the Strida cheaply.
The Dove is very portable but 14" wheels and single speed are strictly for smooth and flat areas which is rare.

My next bike will be a Moulton; one of the most historic and innovative of bike brands.
If 17-20" wheels were never banned by racing organizations I think they could have become one the of world's biggest bike companies.
I love the old school innovations and industrial look to them.
These have to be some of the most time intensive to make bicycles you can buy off the shelf.
Granted I couldn't make either kind, but laying up a carbon monocoque seems easy compared to brazing so many tubes together.
If it was easy to make a Moulton, there would be copycats.

I could probably afford a TSR9 within a year.
Or maybe I should save a few years for a New Series which is silly money but it would be the last bike I buy.

I could never justify a Double Pylon when I could buy an MV Agusta instead and I would be afraid of being bike-jacked riding it.

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A Dahon Curve type bike, but with a 7+ speed mod.
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Originally Posted by shrooms
Please share your list of your future bikes and why would you buy them.
I'm not really planning on buying another folder anytime soon (I've already got my Alex Moulton)...but one can dream.

Let's start with the historical folders:
Gotta have a Bickerton. I've always liked the looks of the 'Country' model.
The Diblasi R24 was easily the most brilliant concept in a folder.
A Velo Le Petit Bi is probably the ultimate in French quirkiness, and just the bike to pull from the trunk of a Citroen DS.
A Peugeot Captain Gerard would be perfect for tweed rides.

Current production:
The new Birdys are slick. I think Birdys (or is it 'Birdies'?) are one of just a few bikes that transcend 'folding' and are fine all around bicycles. Hmmm, City or Speed?
A Brompton S3E - Brompton, another brilliant concept bike, lacking in execution.
A Dahon Mu Rohloff, just because it's beautiful.
A Strida Evo 18 - in a hundred years, these will be displayed in museums with placards raving about their brilliance of design. Of course, in a hundred years they won't have to ride one daily!
An Ori Surpaz CR 3.0, for club rides.

Finally, a mythological (future?) bike:
An 'Eastern' frame Dahon Curl. I fear the Dahon team is in a meeting right now, figuring out how to mess the design up and delay it further.
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Originally Posted by fietsbob
the earlier ones a proprietaty size that back then only Wolber made.. for Sir Alex's company...
A common mistake, but Dr. Moulton, C.B.E. was not a baronet nor was he never knighted.

Upon being corrected for making this mistake, cycle journalist John S. Allen famously quipped, "Well, if Moulton was never knighted, he should have been."
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1. AM New Series Double Pylon - well built, well designed
2. New Series Birdy - stiffer hydroformed front fork
3. AM Speed - only because it is the lightest/fastest of all the AM series
4. Brompton Black S2E - it is black
5. Montague - full-size folding bike
6. Tyrell IVE - most compact fold from the land of the rising sun
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Originally Posted by towndock
• A Brompton. I don't need one. But after seeing and riding one, at some point I just may have to have a Brommie. I could stay perfectly amused if all I ever did was fold and unfold it.

Very, very tempting indeed. So tempting, I did a very short test ride of all of 1 1/2 blocks. I have determined that a test ride can last much longer if one does not fall off the bike. Once the cast comes off, I'll try again.
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New Birdy. Love my Birdy, would like to check out the new version.
Bike Friday. Specifically a Rohloff like Fietsbob's, with disk brakes and room for 2" tires, please.
Ti Swift. Yum.
Moulton. APB for the 20" tires, or New Series. Not picky.
Dahon Mu Rohloff.
Pacific Reach.
Brompton. To see what the fuss is all about a lord it over all other folding bike brand owners.

Of course these are all money-no-object dream bikes. Maybe not a basic Birdy, Reach, or BF, which would be solid mid-range bikes. On the more affordable end:

Downtube Mini 8sp
Dahon Speed/Mu Uno, Curve D3, or heck even a cheap Boardwalk for fun.
Used Raleigh R20, with an eye toward upgrading.
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1. Titanium Brompton which I would attempt to spread the rear frame to 135mm to accomodate an Alfine 11 (I have already a steel Brompton with Alfine 11 which is fantastic). Ben Cooper has spread a few titanium rear frames in the past so it is possible.

2. Dahon Curve SL or Mu XL with 135mm horizontal dropouts to fit an Alfine 11 and Gates Carbon Drive. I'd prefer the Curve SL but probably would be resigned to the Mu XL because of frame clearance issues with a 70t Gates chainring on a Curve which probably isn't possible.

3. Dahon Helios XX with 130mm ultralight aftermarket Capreo compatible hub and lightweight accessories for a superlight bike with a reasonable gear range.

4. Dahon EEZZ new 3-speed model

5. Detachable Moulton because of the beautiful iconic design (and potential for portability)

But my ultimate bike would be a full titanium or carbon frame Brompton with Capreo compatible hub and enough frame/mudguard clearance to mount 1.50+ tires if necessary.
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Already have a 50 year old Moulton speed and a Xootr folder but i love the m60 moulton and the new speeds but love the old f framed bikes just as much for there simplicity and fantastic ride quality, pondering on another f frame or possibly an apb as 2 on ebay uk at the moment i can afford if they dont go up in price.
Love these old Moultons, I have the Speed model in red like the kid is riding halfway through. - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pb5e46nDg5Y

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Funny..what you wish for does not always match up to your dreams..I wanted a Moulton APB for years and when I finally bought one it turned out to be terrible..The front suspension was always seizing up and the bike never stopped creaking..it was the worst bike I ever had sadly..I also owned a Brompton S6L for a time but sold it for a Bike Friday Tikit..I foolishly sold the Tikit..I would love another but perhaps with a front derailleur to give 16 speed or with dual drive to give 24 speed..Sold my Tikit to buy another Brompton S6L with a Bwr hub..Lovely bike but not as enjoyable to ride as a Tikit.
Also I would love a brand new Bike Friday Pocket Rocket but with 406mm wheels...My old Bike Friday New World Tourist is just too old and slow now..
..Owned Dahon Curves and Piccolos but not impressed by them..A Dahon Speed Pro TT looks very nice ..
However I have ridden an old Mk3 Moulton made by Raleigh with a 5 speed hub and that was a great bike and would love one..but not a folding bike at all.
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I like the Pocket Llama, a Bike Friday Tikit would be nice .. they have an option of belt drive ..
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Originally Posted by shrooms
Please share your list of your future bikes and why would you buy them. My list is short and starting from the most preferable. Thanks a lot in advance.

Helix Titanium - Waiting and hoping the project will live
Pacific Cycles Reach T20 - Seems to me it rides a bit closer to regular roadies.
I have far too many folding bikes but I would still consider a Dahon Curl if it were priced half what a Brompton runs and either came with or could be retrofitted with industry standard internal gear hubs without requiring frame spreading.

More likely than that is one of these days I will order a custom rear Brompton rear triangle from the one guy in the world who does this, somewhere in England. His custom Brompton rear triangles can ft any hub including a Rohloff.

If the Downtube Mini could actually fit, folded with zero disassembly, into a 62" linear inch suitcase, I would buy one today. But, honestly, that's just because my Bromptons were so expensive I am nervous every time I fly with one, and the Downtube Mini costs far, far less, so I would just be less heartbroken if it got baggage handled into oblivion. Not happy mind you, just less unhappy.
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Originally Posted by ShortLegCyclist
If the Downtube Mini could actually fit, folded with zero disassembly, into a 62" linear inch suitcase, I would buy one today. But, honestly, that's just because my Bromptons were so expensive I am nervous every time I fly with one, and the Downtube Mini costs far, far less, so I would just be less heartbroken if it got baggage handled into oblivion. Not happy mind you, just less unhappy.
Did you see our website recently? I uploaded a picture of a mini in a standard suitcase. I just pulled the seatpost out ans laid it alongside the frame.

Don't worry you don't have to buy one today....I'm joking

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Originally Posted by downtube
Did you see our website recently? I uploaded a picture of a mini in a standard suitcase. I just pulled the seatpost out ans laid it alongside the frame.

Don't worry you don't have to buy one today....I'm joking

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Impressive, but that still counts as disassembly ;-)

While you are at it, is there a plan to change from that unusual green color in future models?
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Impressive, but that still counts as disassembly ;-)

While you are at it, is there a plan to change from that unusual green color in future models?
What color are you interested in? I was planning on adding white, and dark blue.

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