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    Can anyone point me to info on my new-to-me Bike Friday Pocket Metro 7?

    I just bought a very gently used Pocket Metro 7, it's a lovely red, even the crank. Purchased from the original owner who took very good care of it and it's all nice and shiny. It has a folding seatmast. It's due to arrive in a couple days to me so I'm trying to find out specs and upgrade options, etc., on this model. It's pretty old so BF doesn't have anything on their website. Any info or help would be appreciated with my first folding bike.
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    Contact Bike Friday and if you have the serial number they can tell you most anything you want to know about the bike. They have an 800 number and generally love to answer questions about their bikes. Roger

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    I have one..think they were made in the late 90s..They have the braze ons to convert it to a Dual Drive 24 speed bike..I took mine to a local frame builder and he brazed on a front derailleur hanger for me as they do not come with one..Mine has a folding seat mast and the rear wheel folds to the right..i think they now fold to the left..

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    BF uses pretty standard bike components , 1st look at what is on there .. since this is another...
    'How can I Upgrade a bike I have not ridden yet?'

    at least wait until you have tried it As Is. then find out what the component pick actually is?

    I suspect its a 1 by 7 IDK Freewheel or cassette,
    Sachs was making a dual drive 7 cassette with a 3 speed IGH around the time SRAM bought them Out .

    Now SRAM is Asian where Sachs was German..

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    Quote Originally Posted by tudorowen1 View Post
    I have one..think they were made in the late 90s..They have the braze ons to convert it to a Dual Drive 24 speed bike..I took mine to a local frame builder and he brazed on a front derailleur hanger for me as they do not come with one..Mine has a folding seat mast and the rear wheel folds to the right..i think they now fold to the left..
    Ooooh....so does your stem pop off or fold? The frame looks skinnier than the more recent models - do you find it "flexy" at all? Would you consider it worth it to slowly upgrade it versus purchasing a newer model? I don't know enough about BF to know if the older frames were well made or not or whether the earlier designs were less efficient. It's coming Wednesday, though and I am pretty excited!

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    Rhenning, I will do once I get the bike, thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post
    BF uses pretty standard bike components , 1st look at what is on there .. since this is another...
    'How can I Upgrade a bike I have not ridden yet?'

    at least wait until you have tried it As Is. then find out what the component pick actually is?

    I suspect its a 1 by 7 IDK Freewheel or cassette,
    Sachs was making a dual drive 7 cassette with a 3 speed IGH around the time SRAM bought them Out .

    Now SRAM is Asian where Sachs was German..
    Ok, guilty of the upgrade before riding, ha. But it is a seven speed and I live around hills (Berkeley) so am thinking I might need some better climbing gears. Not too worried about the top end, I usually cruise around 14 mph. But my senior citizen legs do get tired on long climbs. I was just trying to plan ahead...obviously without knowing what I have. Duh.

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    @ 50, I hauled me and a bunch of crap Around Ireland and Scotland . 700c 24:34 low My cruise = pootle at 7mph average.

    20" wheels drops the gear range automatically ..

    Now, have a Pocket Llama 53:16 is about the same as a 16:38 with a 26" wheel .. so sticking a 34-50 or 36-52 double on the front may do fine.

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    My handle bar post on my Metro uses a quick release...but it is a very tight fit so does not come off very easily...The whole handle bar post and handlebars are very stiff..not flexy at all..The only time the bike is flexy is when you have 30 or 40lbs of luggage on the back and i think that is more to do with the BF folding rack than anything..My 14 speed Metro has been on 4 continents and about 25 different countries..
    The only upgrade I did was the front derailleur braze on and up to 14 speed..I think you can get a good gear range for touring if you use 11 to 34 rear cassette and say a 46 front chainwheel..alternative is put a double on the front and change by hand..As long as you are happy with the bike frame then upgrade it..no point if you are not happy with the frame..
    My metro is one of the best bikes I've ever had and would not sell it..

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    My Pocket Rocket from about a decade and a half ago came with a Sachs 3x7, but it had been upgraded to use a 9s cut down to 8s, and 9x3 brifters.

    Mine has an unused braze-on mount for a front derailleur. It seems to take a screw-in cable stop which I'm trying to locate. Tomorrow I'll see if a stop from a Suntour derailleur will work.

    Post some photos when you can. Do you have the photos from the original ad?

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    Here is a pic of the bike. It's due to me on Wednesday via UPS. The owner included a second seat post in case this one pictured is too tall for me (inseam 30"). I absolutely love the painted/chrome chain guard! I will swap out my power grip performance pedals, my spurcycle griprings for the grips, and my seat (Terry Liberator). I've ordered a Xootr crossrack for the seatpost because it allows me to remove the rack weight when I don't need it and when I shop it is usually one pannier. I do have a delta megacycle rear rack from my Trek 720 that will fit for touring. I also have a nitto m12 which I will probably pop on the front. 0005ghm3b7q99fs4.640x480.jpg
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    The photo isn't very clear, but it appears as if there is a front derailleur mount just behind the top tube. You'll have to inspect when you get the bike, so it is quite possible that it would be easy enough to add a front derailleur.

    Mine seems to require a screw-in cable stop which is missing. I sent a note to BF without reply. But, I may try to make one. I tried the Suntour front derailleur cable stop, but it was M5, and I think I need M6 But, it did give me a good idea how to make one.

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    All else.. "greasy finger shifting" the chain by hand is simple.. down shifting done with the heel of your right shoe.

    I like having my rack on the front wheel for panniers .. the weight makes the handling more stable .. its OK without , just better..

    there is a braze on behind the V brake boss to use BF's pack flat 3 piece rack , a cross bracing tube + the 2 sides..

    the tops of the panniers, And the front rack width is also a useful load space .

    I can use a stretch net hooking onto D rings on the pannier lid to fetch boxed pizzas..


    Planet bike recumbent fenders http://ecom1.planetbike.com/rec1000a.html sell as an each .
    since those bikes often only have 1 wheel of the 20" size .. so you get 1 front and 1 rear .
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    Quote Originally Posted by tudorowen1 View Post
    My handle bar post on my Metro uses a quick release...but it is a very tight fit so does not come off very easily...The whole handle bar post and handlebars are very stiff..not flexy at all..The only time the bike is flexy is when you have 30 or 40lbs of luggage on the back and i think that is more to do with the BF folding rack than anything..My 14 speed Metro has been on 4 continents and about 25 different countries..
    The only upgrade I did was the front derailleur braze on and up to 14 speed..I think you can get a good gear range for touring if you use 11 to 34 rear cassette and say a 46 front chainwheel..alternative is put a double on the front and change by hand..As long as you are happy with the bike frame then upgrade it..no point if you are not happy with the frame..
    My metro is one of the best bikes I've ever had and would not sell it..
    Sounds like a double will be in my future; I do believe the guy said it had front derailleur braze on. Other than the gearing, I probably won't change much til I have done some riding. Assuming all BF frames are good quality, if this one fits me well, I will make improvements over time. I wrote BF to see if the folding stem replacement is an option - depending on how much I take it on Bart, it might be worth it at some point. They seem to hold value well so I don't see upgrades as a problem.

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    You may not find it as useful commuting on BART , as their intention was a pack for travel , knock down to suitcase size.
    not the kind of fast fold they designed into their Tikit Hyperfold .

    but Off Peak on the Trans Bay tube, you dont have to fold anything...

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    Quote Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post
    You may not find it as useful commuting on BART , as their intention was a pack for travel , knock down to suitcase size.
    not the kind of fast fold they designed into their Tikit Hyperfold .

    but Off Peak on the Trans Bay tube, you dont have to fold anything...
    Fortunately (or not) I am past working age, so my Bart rides would be to meet up with folks to go riding mostly during the weekdays or to run errands in different neighborhoods. The senior clipper card is an awesome deal and traffic is so bad I hate to drive anymore. I've tried to take my 700c Trek 720 on Bart but I am short and so are my arms so we struggle badly up and down the steps. Stupid elevators never work. I'm thinking I can roll to the steps, then drop the seat mast folded and the rear tire tucked in and lift. It's not a weight issue, it's a height issue.

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    Because the hinge is behind the BB and they use a common RD, you will have the greasy chain going slack,
    and coming off the chainring(s) when you use the rear fold.

    eye the Type extension loop Birdy uses as a potential way to gather up some of the slack ..

    Because the next step , packing in a suitcase when actually traveling , the greasy loop of chain can be bagged, in practice..
    to be a little bit less Messy..

    but once in hand you can practice to get your own scheme sorted out..

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    Quote Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post
    Because the hinge is behind the BB and they use a common RD, you will have the greasy chain going slack,
    and coming off the chainring(s) when you use the rear fold.

    eye the Type extension loop Birdy uses as a potential way to gather up some of the slack ..

    Because the next step , packing in a suitcase when actually traveling , the greasy loop of chain can be bagged, in practice..
    to be a little bit less Messy..

    but once in hand you can practice to get your own scheme sorted out..
    Someone gave me a folding bike cover with a drawstring closure; it should be big enough to cover lengthwise with the rear wheel folded and snug up above the top tube. Hopefully that will take care of the grease. I watched a you tube video on how to fold without dropping the chain and I'll definitely practice that method =). Packing in a suitcase will call for latex gloves, I think. Not my main concern or I would have gotten a Brompton. thanks for all the good advice!

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    Here's a pic of the bike (I installed my own seat, grips, and the Nitto rack). There is some kind of bracket which might be for the front derailleur; I'll have a shop look at it. I think the BB needs service and the wheels are a bit out of true, but otherwise okay. photo.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by linberl View Post
    Here's a pic of the bike (I installed my own seat, grips, and the Nitto rack). There is some kind of bracket which might be for the front derailleur; I'll have a shop look at it. I think the BB needs service and the wheels are a bit out of true, but otherwise okay.
    The bike looks nice. Take it out for a ride and see how it feels before making any mods.

    That bracket is for the front derailleur.

    Does your bike have any kind of a cable stop or cable guide for the front derailleur? Mine was built for a dual-drive rearend, and apparently has neither a cable stop or a cable guide for the FD. It does have a 6mm braze-on eyelet, but I got a note back from Bike Friday indicating that it is for some kind of a packing bumper, and not for use as a cable stop. They don't stock a stop for the hole, but I have some plans to make one. My Suntour screw in cable stops are 5mm

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    My Pocket Llama has a Brazed on cable stop there .. If as ^^Above^^ should be able to find a shop
    to braze/weld a housing stop onto the head of a machine screw .
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    It appears to have a cable guide (?) and then there is also a hole filled with a bolt. The front fork on the inside also has same bolt and hole. I was thinking those are for fenders but they are for cables? photo.jpg
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    The stop for the FD cable housing , is the lower one .. called BF in Eugene to ask about the other one Yet?

    (it's not on my BF PL)

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    Quote Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post
    The stop for the FD cable housing , is the lower one .. called BF in Eugene to ask about the other one Yet?

    (it's not on my BF PL)
    I'm saving up my questions for one call, haha. There are a lot of little braze on points on this bike; I may just send them a picture to ask what they all are for. One thing I noticed, and I'm not sure if it is normal, is that the bashguard (the red part on my crank ring) appears to "wobble" when turned. There is a metal plug on the inside in one spot which seems to set the distance to the chain. But the rest of it is closer to the chain, so it looks like it has a bubble in it. I don't think it is a mechanical issue of any kind, but if I look down, it's annoying. Does your chainguard vary in distance from the chain like that?

    I may not add a front derailleur after all. I rode today up some of my local hills and never dropped below 3d. My lbs guy said if I need a lower gear that changing the front would be cheaper and easier since I don't use the top gear even on flats. Time will tell on that one.

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    <blind guess> It's likely the crank arm , they buy what is made , the Chain ring disk is probably Flat
    (remove and check to confirm, Granite Countertops are flat)

    and at the prices they sold those for Its Good enough for Purpose .

    Want an expensive crankset ?, Made to higher Precision? be ready to spend Up to those Heights..

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