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Old 03-14-16, 06:04 AM   #76
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It's an extremely attractive bike, I must say. The shape of the frame is really pleasing to the eye.

A blend between this and a Mezzo/Ori would be a very good all-round compromise, getting rid of the Mezzo's dog-leg stem and protruding forks when folded, but utilizing the shorter top/main tube of the Mezzo for the smaller folding size.
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What's the allen key for at 00:45?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPqkoPgqLps#t=43s

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Edit: Shown in this video from Tyrell:
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It's an extremely attractive bike, I must say. The shape of the frame is really pleasing to the eye.

A blend between this and a Mezzo/Ori would be a very good all-round compromise, getting rid of the Mezzo's dog-leg stem and protruding forks when folded, but utilizing the shorter top/main tube of the Mezzo for the smaller folding size.
It would also have the advantage of being able to attach a front bag that a mezzo cant.
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"If you look at the place where the elastomer is mounted on the seat tube, there is nothing on the other side. With the Brompton, Birdy, Reach, Moulton etc the support point is backed by the top tube or something equivalent. The force exerted by the rear triangle on the seat tube is transmitted to the rest of the frame. "

So ironically, given the twin top tube design jokes recently, this design would have been better with a single top tube in addressing this design aspect.
They could add a trianglation to the top tube possibly.
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Old 03-14-16, 02:03 PM   #80
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Just to clarify, the other steel Tyrell is the CX.
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hi, how long do you reckon it takes to get to Pekan Nanas from Singapore? good place to spend the night on the way to Malaka on a bicycle? or perhaps Pontian or Benut?
If I recall correctly, it probably takes 2.5 (roughly at 25kph) from JB customs.

I don't know about using it as a way to Melaka.
I'd expect ppl either do Batu Pahat > Muar > Melaka
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Kulai > Yong Peng > Melaka
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yes, thanks, i am wanting to drop down to small coastal roads for it will be a tour, not a race. if it takes me two/three days to get to melaka, no problem.
Great!
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Tyrell now has an American distributor.

http://propelbikes.com/

It's not listed on their website, but I spoke to them and they carry the Tyrell Ive. They quoted $1,600 for it, which seems steep to me.
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Tyrell now has an American distributor.

http://propelbikes.com/

It's not listed on their website, but I spoke to them and they carry the Tyrell Ive. They quoted $1,600 for it, which seems steep to me.
thats hilarious! I have wanted a tyrell for years now and this place is like a mile from my apartment! totally checking it out ASAP!
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Tyrell now has an American distributor.

http://propelbikes.com/

It's not listed on their website, but I spoke to them and they carry the Tyrell Ive. They quoted $1,600 for it, which seems steep to me.
Tyrell is almost like a Japanese boutique brand. (made in Japan and not mass manufactured in a cheaper place)
You do get what you pay for which I consider more or less fair.

The workmanship and powder coat is good, the bike is well thought out.
Its also a faster bike than a Brompton.
The gearing is a nice 53T + 11-30T which is very wide to cover most riding.


Seems like price is a bit steep compared to what I got here in Singapore.
Can you bargain?
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Hey Guys, Chris from Propel here. We're excited to be offering the IVE, it's quite a nice bike. I have been speaking with Tyrell on the topic of price as it's really tough with shipping costs to offer a competitive price. I've decided to lower the price, but we will need to group the orders together in order to save on shipping. The two sample bikes we just received cost $310 in shipping between the two of them.

I think if we group the orders together and ship a pallet via sea freight we could get the shipping per bike down to about $50 a bike as opposed to $150 a bike with shipping air. We're going to lower the price to $1500 and we will offer another $50 discount for those who pay up front on the pre-order. Hopefully we can find a way to bring the price down even further once things get rolling. Feel free to reach out if I can be of further assistance. I hope this seems reasonable.

I'm planning to send our next order towards the end of June and it will arrive in July.

Edit: Current weight limit is 80kg's. We are working to find another wheel option to up the weight limit. Currently that is the only factor limiting heavier riders.

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I think if we group the orders together and ship a pallet via sea freight we could get the shipping per bike down to about $50 a bike as opposed to $150 a bike with shipping air. We're going to lower the price to $1500 and we will offer another $50 discount for those who pay up front on the pre-order. Hopefully we can find a way to bring the price down even further once things get rolling. Feel free to reach out if I can be of further assistance. I hope this seems reasonable.
Chris,

If you are looking to do an LCL shipment contact UFS Logistics Inc , they are based in NYC and they have some amazingly low rates on ocean freight. My last 40' HQ container was around $3500 from China to NC, USA. FYI this is the cheapest price I have ever had in 13+ years of importing.

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Edit: Current weight limit is 80kg's. We are working to find another wheel option to up the weight limit. Currently that is the only factor limiting heavier riders.
My interest would definitely be piqued if the weight limit could get up to 100kg or 110kg. Not sure if simply changing wheels will get you there, but do keep us posted.
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Yan - Much appreciated on the container idea. I will check them out. Right now we are aiming for pallet loads.

Lalato - I will keep you posted. Currently the limit is 80kg. I'll connect with the Tyrell team to see what's possible. The bikes seem to be pretty solid. I'm about 190 and I don't feel any flex of instability. Technically I'm at the upward end of their current limit.
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I'm considering this bike for multimodal commutes. The chain remains exposed when the bike is folded. I'm guessing this isn't ideal in a crowded subway? That may be a deal breaker, unfortunately. But I really do like what I've seen of the Ive.
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Sram dd

The IVE's rear OLD is 120mm. SRAM DD is 130mm. What would be the chances of squeezing it in?
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I'm considering this bike for multimodal commutes. The chain remains exposed when the bike is folded. I'm guessing this isn't ideal in a crowded subway? That may be a deal breaker, unfortunately. But I really do like what I've seen of the Ive.
Are you in NYC? Or are you going to order online without a test ride?

I called Propel last week about the bike but the person who answered the phone didn't know much about the bike. He took my contact info to call me back but since then, crickets...
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I'm considering this bike for multimodal commutes. The chain remains exposed when the bike is folded. I'm guessing this isn't ideal in a crowded subway? That may be a deal breaker, unfortunately. But I really do like what I've seen of the Ive.
Never understood this as an issue. Had lots of folders and never had issues with exposed chains on mezzo birdies etc.
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The IVE's rear OLD is 120mm. SRAM DD is 130mm. What would be the chances of squeezing it in?
None. 1cm is a lot to respace.

Moreover aluminium (or carbon) frames can't be easily respaced. Not even for something like 5mm, which is half the spacing you would need.

As usual, Sheldon explains it best: Bicycle Frame/Hub Spacing
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Ok.

Btw, the IVE is steel.


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None. 1cm is a lot to respace.

Moreover aluminium (or carbon) frames can't be easily respaced. Not even for something like 5mm, which is half the spacing you would need.

As usual, Sheldon explains it best: Bicycle Frame/Hub Spacing
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I'm considering this bike for multimodal commutes. The chain remains exposed when the bike is folded. I'm guessing this isn't ideal in a crowded subway? That may be a deal breaker, unfortunately. But I really do like what I've seen of the Ive.
It really isn't exposed much to be much of a concern actually.
However, in countries like Japan, covering up the bike is a rule for going up the train.
My bike came with a free cover bag.

There is no such requirement here in Singapore though, so the bag is unused.


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The IVE's rear OLD is 120mm. SRAM DD is 130mm. What would be the chances of squeezing it in?
I doubt it can it nor can the rear be opened up as the frame construction is pretty stiff, thick and angular, even though its steel.

I just changed out the stock 53T Chainring, Sora RD and 11-30T to 55T, Shinano Dee RD+Saint Shifter and 11-36T cassette.
90 to 27.5 gear inches which should suffice for all my needs for travels and long distance cycling on a 1x10 setup.

Bali where you are may require another setup of course.
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I just changed out the stock 53T Chainring, Sora RD and 11-30T to 55T, Shinano Dee RD+Saint Shifter and 11-36T cassette.
90 to 27.5 gear inches which should suffice for all my needs for travels and long distance cycling on a 1x10 setup.

Bali where you are may require another setup of course.
Why did you go with Downhill (Dee and Saint) components? Is it because the Downhill RD are more tucked in or higher?
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Why did you go with Downhill (Dee and Saint) components? Is it because the Downhill RD are more tucked in or higher?
I dont presume to speak for anyone else but I am using the Shimano Zee shifter/derailleur on my 20in bike and it is a very compact package that tucks tight yet is specifically designed for wide range cassettes like the 11-36t on a 1x system, it also makes very precise and quick shifts. At the moment the zee shifter/derailleur setup is very reasonably priced considering the quality the shifter + derailleur can be had for about $75 us. I am running a 1x10 system with 11-32t cassette, 56t chainring, and 406 wheels 1.95" tires 35-100 gear inches.



and with 16" wheels you would want as much clearance as you could get I would think.

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Good to know. Yeah, that probably explains DH parts with 355 wheels.


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I dont presume to speak for anyone else but I am using the Shimano Zee shifter/derailleur on my 20in bike and it is a very compact package that tucks tight yet is specifically designed for wide range cassettes like the 11-36t on a 1x system, it also makes very precise and quick shifts. At the moment the zee shifter/derailleur setup is very reasonably priced considering the quality the shifter + derailleur can be had for about $75 us. I am running a 1x10 system with 11-32t cassette, 56t chainring, and 406 wheels 1.95" tires 35-100 gear inches.



and with 16" wheels you would want as much clearance as you could get I would think.
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Why did you go with Downhill (Dee and Saint) components? Is it because the Downhill RD are more tucked in or higher?
Yes, as thugpipe explained, its tucked higher.
XTR with long cage was really near the 18" rims for comfort.



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I dont presume to speak for anyone else but I am using the Shimano Zee shifter/derailleur on my 20in bike and it is a very compact package that tucks tight yet is specifically designed for wide range cassettes like the 11-36t on a 1x system, it also makes very precise and quick shifts. At the moment the zee shifter/derailleur setup is very reasonably priced considering the quality the shifter + derailleur can be had for about $75 us. I am running a 1x10 system with 11-32t cassette, 56t chainring, and 406 wheels 1.95" tires 35-100 gear inches.

and with 16" wheels you would want as much clearance as you could get I would think.
I have been surprised by my final choice too.
Started looking only with my old knowledge of Shimano stuff and never ever looked at the DH stuff.

Very happy with the Saint/Dee Rd+shifters.
Very clean shifts.
I run a slightly customized cassette (11,12,15 to 36T + 55T), 11T & 12T being my fast gears with the 15T being the cruising gear, so I gained more and lost nothing over the previous 11-30T + 53T.
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