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Old 08-20-16, 08:32 PM   #101
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What's the distance between the bolts on the front luggage mount?
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Are you in NYC? Or are you going to order online without a test ride?

I called Propel last week about the bike but the person who answered the phone didn't know much about the bike. He took my contact info to call me back but since then, crickets...
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$1,350 in Bangkok

FYI, the best price I've found on the IVE is in Bangkok at $1,350 (THB47,000). That price includes rear rack, cover and EZ wheels.
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Updating this thread for all Tyrell IVE stuff, since this is one of the very few ones in English that I can find via a google search.


Just back from a short 2 day cycling trip covering 140km and some rather steep climbs.

20160826-IMGP3763 by jenkwang, on Flickr


I upgraded the drive train from the 53T chainring and 11-30T, Sora RD to 55T, SLX 11-36T with Dee RD and Saint Shifters.
Reason being that I knew that if I wanted to go touring/audax on this thing a bit more, it will be better to have a few more easy gears.
However, the local rides here would mean that I'd need to go fast, and thats why I changed to the 55T so that I get a bit more gear inches on the 11T and 12T on the higher end of the cassette.

The main thing for the potential IVE user to note is that the rear dropout has a plastic chain guard and RD cable guide that will interfere with the chain line with either a 55T (or larger) chainring and/or >30T cassette.
Its no big deal though, since this plastic guard/guide is removable (2 screws).
In its place, I used 2 off the shelf cable guides.
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Old 08-29-16, 06:14 AM   #106
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What's the distance between the bolts on the front luggage mount?
Its 2.5cm and I think the Brompton block fits.
The Tern one does not, I tried at BRU
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Old 08-30-16, 10:43 AM   #107
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None. 1cm is a lot to respace....
As usual, Sheldon explains it best: Bicycle Frame/Hub Spacing
I know nothing of this topic. But Sheldon's article you cite uses 1cm increases as if they were perfectly normal situations for cold-setting a fork. Why do you say 1cm is too much?
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Updates again.

Prepping for a trip to Perth and did not want to fiddle around too much if it rained or the hassle of inconvenient access to my camera.

So bit the bullet and got a front luggage for the IVE.

Initially (as posted above), I was going to go for the Brompton luggage truss as the bike has a 2.5mm mount hole spacing.
I even had the luggage truss ordered. (and coming tomorrow)
However, the local cost of the Brompton mini-o bag here put me off.
Furthermore, the Flickfix system provided lots of bag options which I could use across other bikes as well.

So I re-looked the Tern luggage instead and realized that was very easily to simply drill/file one of the mount holes on the truss to get to fit the 2.5mm spacing on the bike.

So here it is :
Tyrell IVE with the Tern Luggage truss and Ortlieb Classic 6 bag.


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Old 10-05-16, 08:12 AM   #109
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That store in Singapore that sells the Brompton branded Ortlieb bags are a bunch of elitist jackasses.
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That store in Singapore that sells the Brompton branded Ortlieb bags are a bunch of elitist jackasses.


I've heard stories. No 1st hand experience though.

What got to me was that they still have a webpage that said the bags were on discount.
Brompton Bags
When I called (lucky for me), they said the sale was over and that it was back to the original price.


Good for me too, since the Klickfix stuff is cheaper, can be used on other bikes and plentiful.
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Fall Factor off Jl. Bukit Merah carries lots of Ortlieb stuff. No Schmuckton branding, or accompanying richer-than-thou condescention. Nice, mellow guys there. They sell Klickfix caddies too.

I like my Ortlieb bag on Tern Luggage Trus too. Zee RD with 11-36T is nice too.

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I've heard stories. No 1st hand experience though.

What got to me was that they still have a webpage that said the bags were on discount.
Brompton Bags
When I called (lucky for me), they said the sale was over and that it was back to the original price.


Good for me too, since the Klickfix stuff is cheaper, can be used on other bikes and plentiful.

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Fall Factor off Jl. Bukit Merah carries lots of Ortlieb stuff. No Schmuckton branding, or accompanying richer-than-thou condescention. Nice, mellow guys there. They sell Klickfix caddies too.

I like my Ortlieb bag on Tern Luggage Trus too. Zee RD with 11-36T is nice too.

Yes, I bought my bag from them too at the OCBC Cycling Expo.
The bags were on discount.


I've been impressed with the Zee RD and Saint shifter, really responsive and clean shifting.


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Yes, quick, smooth, accurate shifts every time. I run the Zee RD with an SLX shifter. I reckon, for small wheel bikes (20" and smaller) running single ring cranksets, these Zee RDs with a 11-36T cogset is the way to maximize gearing range while keeping the RD high off the ground.


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Yes, I bought my bag from them too at the OCBC Cycling Expo.
The bags were on discount.


I've been impressed with the Zee RD and Saint shifter, really responsive and clean shifting.


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stainless steel IVE is coming...


Wheelsport is now also making their high quality wheels for the IVE in 355 size and 74/120mm OLD
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stainless steel IVE is coming...


Wheelsport is now also making their high quality wheels for the IVE in 355 size and 74/120mm OLD
Looks nice indeed.

Mr Hirose was here for a meetup/talk a few weeks back and the new stainless steel model was mentioned.
Lighter and stronger (but more pricey of course).


He also mentioned elastomer options for the rear latch.
I'd be interested to see how will change the ride of the bike in its current form.
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Perth to Margaret River


20161107-IMGP5341 by jenkwang, on Flickr

Back from Perth from a short cycle tour.
3 days cycling down to Margaret River from Perth and spending the other days cycling around.

So here are more details.


Packing the bike
This was fairly simple.
I got the box from the shop that the bike came in and used that to pack the bike.

Pedals went off, Tern luggage truss removed.
Took out the seat post and loosened the stem/handlebar as I had bar extensions that touched the wall of the box in their original location.
Deflated the tires.
Bike went into the box folded.
Secured the bike with some cardboard and foam to prevent if from shifting around.
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Nice. I am keen on an IVE, but I've got too many bikes and bike projects already.


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Perth to Margaret River


20161107-IMGP5341 by jenkwang, on Flickr

Back from Perth from a short cycle tour.
3 days cycling down to Margaret River from Perth and spending the other days cycling around.

So here are more details.


Packing the bike
This was fairly simple.
I got the box from the shop that the bike came in and used that to pack the bike.

Pedals went off, Tern luggage truss removed.
Took out the seat post and loosened the stem/handlebar as I had bar extensions that touched the wall of the box in their original location.
Deflated the tires.
Bike went into the box folded.
Secured the bike with some cardboard and foam to prevent if from shifting around.
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Nice. I am keen on an IVE, but I've got too many bikes and bike projects already.
You sure have lots of nice bikes and well done builds.
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20161107-IMGP5393 by jenkwang, on Flickr


Bike handling with the load

With the low rear rack, center of gravity was low with the simple load of a bag and a tripod.
The front luggage comprised of the Ortlieb Classic 5 bag on the modded Tern luggage truss.
With the front bag mounted from the front tube via the luggage mount of the frame and not the handlebars made it mostly negligible in terms of its effects on bike handling.


18" tires on the road

The route involved a mix of great smooth bike paths and chip seal highway with lots of puncture risk strewn on the sides (ie. broken glass; metal bits; tree bits; rocks; etc)

This is where I found that the 18" wheels on 1.5" Marathon Racers at moderate psi (65psi) helped a lot.
On a speedier 20" setup, running 1.25" tires and faster tires, it would certainly have been more harsh a ride for sure.

The steel frame, hard rear elastomer, and 65psi tires for the loaded bike felt right, without letting me feel too much of the vibrations from chip seal roads.

In fact, it was not an issue at all with comfort and this help me to de-tour into the highway over some of the windier/colder parts of the route I had originally planned.
The Marathon Racers also gave good assurance vs puncture risks.
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Very nice photos and bike travel reviews pinholecam.

Where are you buying the 18" Schwalbe Marathon Racers? How much?
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Very nice photos and bike travel reviews pinholecam.

Where are you buying the 18" Schwalbe Marathon Racers? How much?
Thanks, just trying to give some info on this bike since its less commonly mentioned.

The 18" Marathon Racers came with the bike.
But it can be purchased online from Bike24.
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Thanks. Are you using a 11-32 Teeth Cassette? Which one is advisable for folding bikes, 11-28 or 11-32?
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Thanks for the info Abu. My range here is mostly flats unless I go outside of Dubai. I am on single chainring only.
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Thanks. Are you using a 11-32 Teeth Cassette? Which one is advisable for folding bikes, 11-28 or 11-32?
As Abu has mentioned, I'm using the Shimano Zee RD with a 11-36T cassette.

I have another mini velo with a 11-25T.

Personally, I think the wide range cassette of the Shimano MTB/DH range makes more sense for a folder.
Especially a 1x10 system.

The 11-25T (by extension the 11-28) is too little change in between gears to matter.
If the bike was for fast peleton rides and race type riding where every delta between gears means keeping up properly with the group or slowing down momentarily due to the large gear change (and getting dropped), then the tighter 11-25/11-28 makes more sense.

Foldies, imo are more of a 'self ride' bike and as such a tight cluster is not really necessary.


The 11T, 12T, with a 55T chainring is plenty fast and plenty hard already anyway.
Not that many folks can sustain a 1-2hr on the 11T unless they are really good.


I simply love the Zee RD.
The shadow+ system is more recessed and is harder to get 'beaten up' if the bike falls on scrapes thru something.
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Thanks for the tips pinholecam. 11-36T it is. I have plan to go this way in the near future. I still have an Alivio long cage derailleur which is almost touching the ground.
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