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Old 11-17-16, 02:32 PM   #126
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Note that the Zee RD comes in DH and FR spec. FR is the one that takes the 11-36T cogset. If you want to splurge and have excess funds, there is also a similar, higher spec Saint RD. You may find this thread helpful.



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Thanks for the tips pinholecam. 11-36T it is. I have plan to go this way in the near future. I still have an Alivio long cage derailleur which is almost touching the ground.

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Old 11-17-16, 06:39 PM   #127
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What are the widest tyres the bike will accept?
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Old 11-17-16, 07:41 PM   #128
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What are the widest tyres the bike will accept?
I have not changed beyond 1.5" (only swapped before to 1.25" Kendas)
But I did speak with the local distro and was told the widest will be 1.75" with the fenders removed.

However, since the stock bike has a rear fender with a coaster wheel to roll the bike along when folded, it means the bike would need the rear rack if the rear fender is to be removed to serve the same function.
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Old 11-19-16, 05:45 AM   #129
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Tyrell Ive packing by jenkwang, on Flickr

Here's a pict of the bike on the box.
Pedals removed.
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Old 11-19-16, 08:46 AM   #130
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Note that the Zee RD comes in DH and FR spec. FR is the one that takes the 11-36T cogset. If you want to splurge and have excess funds, there is also a similar, higher spec Saint RD. You may find this thread helpful.
Thanks a lot Abu. Your thread link is very helpful, the before and after pictures. I will go that way. Thanks again Abu and Pinholecam!

My present RD is a long cage.
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Good luck. Yeah, that RD looks too long and low. That Birdy looks good. Report back (on that other thread or here) with images once the deed is done.

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Thanks a lot Abu. Your thread link is very helpful, the before and after pictures. I will go that way. Thanks again Abu and Pinholecam!

My present RD is a long cage.
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Old 11-25-16, 03:22 AM   #132
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20161109-IMGP5589 by jenkwang, on Flickr


On carrying luggage

While I wrote earlier that the bike handling is unaffected with the carrying of things on the front and rear, there are 2 issues that I found with my way of carrying the stuff.

1. The Tern luggage truss can loosen over time with the way its positioned trussed out from the front mounting point if the luggage is heavy.
This can be due to me not using split washers too, so I've switched to them once I got back.
Not too big a deal if one is carrying lighter stuff like clothing but I had all my camera stuff on the Ortlieb bag in the front.
Its good to do a pre-ride check that the mounting screws are tight before setting off anyway.

2. The rear rack, being low, does give heel strike problems if the rear luggage juts out wider.
This is easily solved by making sure the luggage is set clear of the heel strike location.
Anyone considering rear panniers should take note and try out systems that cater for small wheeled bikes with heel strike clearance.


Other than these, I think the bike is no problem with what I carried.
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Balerang 6 Bridges Ride


Another ride coverage with the Tyrell IVE, this time to cover the Balerang 6 Bridges in nearby Batam.
The ride is certainly undulating most of the way and running a 1x10 with wide range cassette has become what I believe to be one of the best ways of gearing up a foldable bike.

No traffic lights where the legs get a rest, long stretches followed by long inclines, and instead of looking for the highest 11T cog, the lower cogs play an important role of riding at a good pace w/o 'blowing up' or building excessive fatigue that prevents riding the next day.

Running 1x10 (or 1x11) simplifies things with just a shift up/down of the gearing needed.
No running up the slope halfway and feeling that large drop in gearing one gets when shifting from large chainring to the smaller one.

At a point, the bike reached 60kph on the downslope and I do think it handled fairly well at this speed with its long wheel base (despite the 18" wheels and small fold).


20161217-IMGP5179 by jenkwang, on Flickr



20161217-IMGP5174 by jenkwang, on Flickr
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Great touring. Nice photos also. Keep 'em coming!
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Old 02-21-17, 01:13 AM   #135
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Singapore to Malacca
About 245km over 2 days, with the Tyrell IVE.

Only 2 foldies in the ride of 55 cyclists.
The other being a nice looking Tyrell Fx.

Hung on to the tail bits of the first group of riders (ie. faster).

20170218-IMGP5265 by jenkwang, on Flickr

20170218-IMGP5286 by jenkwang, on Flickr


Further thoughts :
1. In a touring group ride, the regular need to stop to re-group/refuel/rest does make the speed advantage of road bikes less apparent.
At most, the faster riders open a 3-5min gap between me and them over 20-30km, then they have to stop, and I re-join.
So basically - use the folder with confidence.

2. Long flat stretches do give road bikes the advantage. The overall efficiency, more aero position, do come into play more than more hilly rides (like the Balerang one mentioned above), there the playing field is more even (only weight comes into play)

3. I wish the IVE can take aero or drop bars more easily w/o complicating the fold. So many instances where a more aero/powerful riding position would be beneficial for closing gaps in the riders or for long flat stretches.
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Nice. And quite fitting. From (the former Straits Settlement of) Singapore to (the former Straits Settlement of) Malacca.

To complete the troika, you should press on to Penang. One day I hope to do Penang to Southern Thailand, and the southern tail of Myanmar.
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Phuket to Krabi - 2 Century Rides

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Its always good to get the bike on the road and subject it to use conditions one will see on a longer ride.
This time being Phuket to Krabi (and back) with the folks from MBG (My Bike Group).
MBG is a group of like minded folks who are very enthusiastic about overseas riding and often organize local as well as overseas rides.



The plan is simple.
168km from Phuket to Krabi, R&R for a day in idyllic Krabi and then the 168km back to Phuket.
Exotic overseas location, nice food.... can't get much nice for a short trip.



A nice view at the end of a ride is always welcome by jenkwang, on Flickr
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Looks like a super nice bike. Mini Velo, yet folding. I like the traditional triangle approach. What is the measurement on the wheelbase length?
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Looks like a super nice bike. Mini Velo, yet folding. I like the traditional triangle approach. What is the measurement on the wheelbase length?

This is a really nice bike in use.
Stiff, yet the selection of wider tires and the very hard rear elastomer and steel frame gives a comfortable ride.

Wheelbase is 1058mm
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Phuket to Krabi


20170715-IMGP5985 by jenkwang, on Flickr

One advantage that a folding bike (that can be rolled around) gives is that it can go into shops, malls, hotels w/o problems.
No leaving the bike leading against the glass wall of the cafe on the outside, while one goes in to get a meal/drink.
All the while having to keep an eye on the bike against anyone who might make a swipe for the bike.


The route between Phuket to Krabi is relatively easy.
About 1.2km of climbs over 168km.
The IVE with the 11-36T and 18" wheels is certainly enough gears to cover the ride.

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Do you have to take off all the touring gear each time you want to fold and go into a restaurant?
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Do you have to take off all the touring gear each time you want to fold and go into a restaurant?
It depends on the type of tour and the packing.

So many cases, I have already checked into the accommodation and left most of my things there, so there's nothing much on the bike (so no need to unload the bike before folding)

Then there are light tours where I am only using the Ortlieb bag on the front ( so no need to unload the bike before folding)

Next will be a loaded rear rack, but having everything in one bag, so thats not a big deal to unload too.

I have a few straps on my rear rack. (Bungies made from old inner tubes)
Some hold down the less taken down stuff (eg. stuff I won't use till the end of the day)
Other straps hold down the stuff I take off the bike often (eg. tripod; extra water container).
So there is no need to shuffle thru all strapping just to take the regularly accessed stuff.
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Day 1


20170715-IMGP5964 by jenkwang, on Flickr

Day one started off at about 7.30am after breakfast.

Since it was a supported ride, the clothing bag was left on the van.
Not wanting to wait too long in the event or rain or punctures (and in the spirit of self sufficiency), I carried the spares and a rain cape on the bike.
A tripod for any photo ops or selfies if I had the chance.


Rain is almost a sure thing for such long rides, so water proofing what is carried is essential.
This can be really simple though, like a water proof 10L bag and plastic bags (for the wallet/phone/camera/passport).
"By right" Thai law requires the traveler to carry the passport with him at all times, though one can also just do with a photocopy.



20170714-IMGP5911 by jenkwang, on Flickr
Almost every stall seems to be able to whip up very good Thai fried rice, almost like its a qualifier for opening a food stall.
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