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Old 03-21-17, 09:20 AM   #1
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Oyama folders to enter US market

New company to bring Oyama folding bikes to US market for the first time | Bicycle Retailer and Industry News

I remember reading about Oyama folders in A to B magazine from the UK. Looks like we'll have a chance to get them here.

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They make pretty nice bikes for the money asked.

If it translates directly, should be pretty good value when it comes to folders.
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I'm very interested in seeing what they bring over here,...
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Some of their folders look interesting, just a question of how well will they ride.

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Old 03-22-17, 07:05 AM   #5
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Been Wanting One for a While

I have had dreams of getting the Skyline Pro CR16 folder for a while. At 30" x 25" x 14" for a 20"-er is quite livable for me.

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Some of their folders look interesting, just a question of how well will they ride.

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Interesting. It may be the case that I just saw the A169 folder on Penn Ave but in black.

As I rode by I gave it a good look since it wasn't immediately recognizable.
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There are many factories in China, but people here are only familiar with Dahon & Oyama. I wonder why that is???

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Is there still a website of Oyama in English?
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We had Oyama bikes in the UK for a while but I think they withdrew from the market.

Seemed to be fairly generic chinese folding bikes with slightly better components than entry level. I know they are a taiwanese company but not sure they are made in taiwan. They look very much like fuji-ta bikes but then with so many similar frames manufactured in China it can be confusing but many of the frame styles of Oyama seem to have a match in the fuji-ta range.

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In 2002 I ordered a container of bikes from Oyama.
They agreed not to use my designs/ideas. I went to the Taipei show in 2003 and they were trying to hide the entire booth from me.....they stole many ideas. I never dealt with them again.

Later I understood that was their MO. They produce for a company and use IP in other markets. I don't think they can be trusted.

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We had Oyama bikes in the UK for a while but I think they withdrew from the market.

Seemed to be fairly generic chinese folding bikes with slightly better components than entry level. I know they are a taiwanese company but not sure they are made in taiwan. They look very much like fuji-ta bikes but then with so many similar frames manufactured in China it can be confusing but many of the frame styles of Oyama seem to have a match in the fuji-ta range.

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In 2002 I ordered a container of bikes from Oyama.
They agreed not to use my designs/ideas. I went to the Taipei show in 2003 and they were trying to hide the entire booth from me.....they stole many ideas. I never dealt with them again.

Later I understood that was their MO. They produce for a company and use IP in other markets. I don't think they can be trusted.

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I've been watching this channel on youtube

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwN...zzAZuT9859GVhg

because I'm interested in China and the different culture and you soon learn they don't give a rat's ass about IP, copyright, trademarks or fake products. You even get cars that are blatant copies of western models and can buy the logo's of the proper brands they are copying from the very dealer you bought the clone version from pre-fitted. Sometimes Chinese companies come up with great ideas for bikes etc and within a short space of time every factory is doing the same. The Chinese companies themselves cannot protect their own designs. Often the importer of the bikes in other countries will register the design as their own even though it was designed in China. So there is an opposite effect too. Many companies in Europe claim they design their own bike frames and have them made in Taiwan or China but near identical frames already exist in those markets. Of course also many frames are designed in Europe and completely ripped off in China. It's just how business is done over there.
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For clarification I use ideas that were developed earlier. However it is different with an agreement with a partner. That's just nuts.

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They agreed not to use my designs/ideas. I went to the Taipei show in 2003 and they were trying to hide the entire booth from me.....they stole many ideas. I never dealt with them again.
Because of the IP issues the general taste for manufacturing in China has highly diminished. You can afford that manufacturing if the pace of progress in your area is such that they cannot keep up when copying, and/or the line will be closed down anyway in 2 or 3 years, if you delegate there just a part of the process or you operate at such a high level that IP theft cannot be easily covered up. Even when they develop their own nominally valuable product, they seem to seriously struggle with quality control when a foreign partner is absent. 3 out of 4 times when I decide to go ahead with purchase of a novel product originally developed in China, and yes there are now more and more of these, it ends up failing down the line in one way or another.
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Seem like really well judged bikes, spec wise hopefully do better than in the UK. Still unsure why they withdrew so quickly perhaps distributor issues. Taiwanese are great engineers and designers and seem to run efficient and good quality manufacturing plants on the Chinese mainland although saying that Foxconn comes to mind and their suicide nets. The building lacks a certain charm with its lack of windows too.


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I like the ebike, but a person posted that they tried to contact Ken via email. They got no response,... :-(
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Totally different Facebook page, but it's Ken apparently. Danka,...
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Skyline IN7B

I'm curious about the Skyline IN7B with belt drive: Foldaway Solutions

If anybody has any further information I'd appreciate hearing about it.
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Does anyone know about the Oyama CX-9? I'm in luv!

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