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Old 03-27-17, 02:24 PM   #1
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Fender Unnnecessry?

Read somewhere fenders not really necessary on 20" wheel, because it's too small to throw up water to you.

What do you think?
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Old 03-27-17, 02:28 PM   #2
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You live in L.A., not Seattle??


I have Mudguards on my Bike Friday.. my Brompton came as such....
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Fenders are just as necessary on a small-wheeled bike if you want to stay clean. I have had mine packed so full of mud that the wheel barely moved, without them that mud would have been on me.
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Read somewhere fenders not really necessary on 20" wheel, because it's too small to throw up water to you.

What do you think?
Get the fenders if you want to stay dry.
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Old 03-27-17, 02:53 PM   #5
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simple .. if you ride on rainy days fenders are a must
if you ride only when its dry ... not so much


20 inch versus big wheels ..... actually small wheels turn faster and muck you easier ..lol
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IMHO front fenders are not necessary. The frame should act as a fender ( in the most important plane of motion for the water ). The rear fender is required.

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I don't like a wet back, and I despise wet feet and legs. Fenders front AND back are a necessity for me.
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Read somewhere fenders not really necessary on 20" wheel, because it's too small to throw up water to you.?
No difference with a smaller wheel. If you ride in the rain or snow, get fenders. One bonus is that for 20" wheels you can buy fenders for kids bikes, which can be cheaper.
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Old 03-27-17, 08:45 PM   #9
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I'm in San Diego

and I have a back fender. I find it a necessity for coastal riding, because of the saltwater and sand. For inland riding, you have the muck from the streets kicking up, so it is an absolute for me. I hate that combo of oil, silt, dirty water, and miscellaneous chemical run-off to form an amalgamation that is murder to clean off.
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Of my bikes, only the Brompton has fenders front and aft. It's what I ride when there are wet roads. My feet stay dry and my chain and frame are less filthy. By the same token, if I can avoid wearing a pack during warm weather I will. I'd rather carry stuff in a bag on the frame or forks or saddle than getting a sweaty back. So I ride the Brompton when it is dry but there's a lot to carry as it is like a little pack mule.
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I don't really use fenders on any of my bikes. If you choose to ride with me during the winter, I'd recommend not drafting..

But, I can say that all of the bikes including the BF will throw mud and dirt at the shoes and trousers. I'm not sure about the skunk stripe.

The BF fenders are a flexible ABS plastic. I took them off before realizing that I think they can be just mashed into the suitcase without harming them (I think). So, perhaps they'll go back on sometime.

An interesting thing about slinging mud is your face. I believe the water has to come out at some angle through the fork to get enough lift to actually splatter in the face. Have tight fork clearance, and you may get mud everywhere else, but not in the face.
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Lightinthebox sells nice flexible plastic fenders for $10 shipped. I installed them on both of my bikes.
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IMHO front fenders are not necessary.


If you don't use a chain case, the rooster tail from the front wheel will keep spraying your chain and crankset with muck and grime. Unless you're the kind of rider who cleans and lubes after each wet ride, a front fender, with a big mud flap, can cause an easily noticeable improvement in chain/drivetrain life.


And it also keeps your shoes drier and cleaner.
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Funny that yesterday I accidentally rode over a good size puddle of water from rain the day before. My Dahon has fenders, but somehow managed to get my foot all wet with yucky water(was wearing sandals). So now I'm in the other extreme...thinking longer fenders and perhaps even wide mud flaps.

Mud flaps???

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When I turn the handlebars the spray will get on my shoes. I don't see that as a big deal, since it doesn't hit my upper body.

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My first bikes are a Dahon Vybe c7a and a Trek 7.2fx, the Dahon came with full fenders and a rear rack. Cut the story short, my first bike ride with the Trek it was raining and I had a really soaked back/butt. I would never want to experience it again so I make it a point to just buy full fenders for any/every bike that I own. Side splashes from other cars are unavoidable though. lol
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And maybe the spray from the front wheel, even with mudguards there is some splashing,

put the cranks at 3 & 9 o'clock , not 12 & 6..

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No fenders on my recreational bikes - don't really enjoy riding them when it's wet or raining anyways. However fenders are important on transportation bikes (touring or commuting) when you have less choice.
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I like fenders on my small bikes.
Keeps the bike cleaner when it runs over water puddles and run-off from construction sites that are common here.
Without them, I'd need to spend more time cleaning up the bike after a ride.

Also the wet roads after the rain.
I'd ride out w/o much fear of a serious bike wash 2hr after a downpour (which is often once every 3-4 days here), while many of my peers with fancier bikes but no fenders would keep their precious bikes at home.
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Old 03-29-17, 07:06 AM   #20
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I hate fenders but they are a necessity here in CT. I don't really ride when it's raining but during this time of year on the east coast even if it hasn't rained for a few days you still have 20 foot mountains of snow lingering around which slowly melt for a few weeks and create silly little mini rivers and streams that cross your path every 30 seconds. The melting snow also keeps the rail trails muddy longer then they should be. For me a compromise is removable fenders. I have a rear fender that clips onto my seat post and a front fender that clips onto a small almost invisible bracket that mounts to the back of the fork. I can install or remove them as needed within seconds.
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marioval, which fenders do you use?
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I learned to like fenders riding in farm country after a rainstorm. I didn't like getting splashed in the face by run off from cattle pens. Of course if you don't like mud gaurds, YMMV.
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marioval, which fenders do you use?
It's a bit of a Frankenstein situation. I bought this sks set that includes a front and rear fender. The front fender I had to cut as it wouldn't fit under my brake. It clips on and there is a big thumb screw that secures it. The rear fender on this set didn't fit at all and I was ready to trash it but luckily I didn't. I ended up buying this sks rear fender that clips to the seat post but it was a little too short and water was still hitting my back. I ended up taking my first rear fender and cutting about 10 inches from the back of it and adhering it to the seat post mounted fender with industrial strength velcro.



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Pal, get the fenders!
Pedaling around and comutting with your folder you will meet many goo places and dirt the your wheel will throw over uour back!
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I started delivering via bicycle for the past three months. Last week I delivered in the rain without a front fender.... and I stand by my judgement that small wheel folders don't need a front fender.

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