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Old 07-25-17, 07:05 PM   #51
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Update: Somewhat unexpectedly, I found an enticing eBay auction for a Downtube 9FS the other day (click here). I did some more research on the bike, decided to give it a go, and won the auction. According to the seller it's only lightly used. In fact, upon closer observation, it appears that the eBay listing photo is the same photo posted under "Customer Experiences" on the Downtube 9FS webpage.

I've never made this type of purchase on eBay and I was a little uneasy, but the final bid was $335, which is $200 less than the retail price for a brand new 9FS. I'm hoping it all works out well.

Edit: I imagine people would advise me to bring the bike to a local bike shop/mechanic to have it inspected and tuned-up, which I plan to do. Aside from that, anything I should be aware of? Any feedback about the spontaneous purchase itself?
What a great deal. This fits your needs as you described them. Once you've had the bike for a bit, please post your review of it.

P.S. Welcome to the fold!
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Congrats! If you have any questions about the bike, Yan from downtube is on this forum and I'm sure would be happy to answer you. I love the color btw. Spend some time practicing the fold so you aren't fumbling around when you need to do it - looks very uncool, lol. Enjoy the bike and enjoy the ride, be safe and have fun
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What a great deal. This fits your needs as you described them. Once you've had the bike for a bit, please post your review of it.

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Congrats! If you have any questions about the bike, Yan from downtube is on this forum and I'm sure would be happy to answer you. I love the color btw. Spend some time practicing the fold so you aren't fumbling around when you need to do it - looks very uncool, lol. Enjoy the bike and enjoy the ride, be safe and have fun
Thank you both. Excited to be joining the fold!
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budget

As someone who doesn't have big budgets can I make a recommendation.
Look at what you need. Look at the options. Buy the best value option. Your budget is a bit immaterial if it limits you to bad options only. Cheapest in long run.
I would look at the IHG belt drive downtube from your description.
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They chose the Mariner D7.

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Old 07-29-17, 11:17 AM   #56
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??? Wrong thread, perhaps?
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Old 07-29-17, 01:40 PM   #57
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Bike was delivered today but I have some questions about the shipping method and the quality of the bike before I bring it to the mechanic at my local bike shop. Perhaps @downtube can also provide some insight? Pictures are included here: My recently delivered Downtube 9FS - used

The seller said the bike was only ridden about three times and is in "almost new" condition. Do you think that reflects how the bike appears in these images? I realize there was almost no protection inside the suitcase, so metal was probably scratching metal the whole time.
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I would not worry about scratches. If the bike is in mechanically sound condition you will be set for a long time. Please make sure to check out everything to make sure it is ok.

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They chose the Mariner D7.

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Why does the picture of the bike in the review derailleur and cogset look nothing like the amazon product page derailleur and cogset which is launched when you click on that image. Did she actually review a different Mariner like a D8 or was hers upgraded?

I'm not very trusting when it comes to Dahon or Tern their spec pages often seem to intentionally mislead. Curious though why they wouldn't look the same and if they aren't the same what value does the review have.
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Old 07-29-17, 01:54 PM   #60
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I would not worry about scratches. If the bike is in mechanically sound condition you will be set for a long time. Please make sure to check out everything to make sure it is ok.

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I agree about the mechanical condition. Some areas are very paint-chipped and deeply scratched, so my asking for feedback is more from a transactional standpoint than an aesthetic one (i.e. saying the bike has "only been ridden three times" and is in "primo, almost new condition.") Also, the third picture from the end, I was trying to determine if those are simply dirty marks or indications of some type of rusting.
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I agree about the mechanical condition. Some areas are very paint-chipped and deeply scratched, so my asking for feedback is more from a transactional standpoint than an aesthetic one (i.e. saying the bike has "only been ridden three times" and is in "primo, almost new condition.") Also, the third picture from the end, I was trying to determine if those are simply dirty marks or indications of some type of rusting.
The frame is aluminum, as are the parts. Only bolts/screws could rust. I can't see any rust in photo's.

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Bike was delivered today but I have some questions about the shipping method and the quality of the bike before I bring it to the mechanic at my local bike shop. Perhaps @downtube can also provide some insight? Pictures are included here: My recently delivered Downtube 9FS - used

The seller said the bike was only ridden about three times and is in "almost new" condition. Do you think that reflects how the bike appears in these images? I realize there was almost no protection inside the suitcase, so metal was probably scratching metal the whole time.
Thanks sucks that it is more scratched up that the seller indicated. I think you still got great value for the bike including suitcase. If the scratches really bother you, send it back. Otherwise, if it checks out mechanically, just head down to the drug store with the bike and find some matching nail polish and cover up those scratches.
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Surely should be able to get some compensation as not as described. $30-50 there abouts I would of thought. Your image evidence is good evidence.
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I'd contact the seller and explain your concerns about the condition relative to what the posting said. Just see what the seller says. If the seller doesn't offer to compensate you, you could file a claim with eBay. Was the item listed as under the ebay guarantee? It's possible it was only ridden 3 times but it was knocked around in storage I would guess which accounts for the deeper chips. If this wasn't disclosed in the posted pictures of the item, you would have a claim.

I went back and the seller posted 3 pics, one was from an ad, two of the actual bike. Neither was close enough to show any detail. Most honest sellers post detail pics and actually specify any damaged areas, from what I've seen in bike ads on eBay. This seller should have done that, and mentioned chips in the paint to reflect the actual condition of the bike. Won't help you now, but next time you can contact a seller to ask for more detailed photos - any good seller will provide them. See if the seller will step up and own the cosmetic damage. If not, and the bike is good mechanically, get some touch up paint, cover the scratches with reflective 3m tape, and don't worry about it.

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Those points of damage seem like what would happen if the bike in suitcase was taken on an air trip. The frame is quite clean in out-of-the-way spots, so the claim of been ridden just 3 times or so seems to match the state of dirt. So my judgement is that the bike was not well padded in the suitcase while travelling.
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Looks to me like those multi scratches or scuffs will polish out. Try some simple green first. If that doesn't improve move up to lighter fluid or lacquer thinner and see if the brown comes off. It doesn't look like it's down to the grey undercoat. If it was me, I would chalk it up and not worry about it.

Ebay only gives you the right to return, with the seller paying return shipping if you are not happy and claim the item was not as advertised. Ebay will not give compensation, that is only up to the seller. If he doesn't then you only have the choice of return or accept and posting negative feedback. None of this affects the longevity or functioning of the bike, so you will just have to live with it.

To me, it doesn't look that bad and now you won't have to worry so much about scratching a brand new bike!LOL
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Agree with Jur .. suitcase/travel dings ... it probably was used 3 times (three trips in its suitcase to parts unknown), but not packed in such a way to minimize scratching.. as the frame is aluminum, chipped paint won't be a rust concern.. I had a Downtube 8FS for years to ride trails with my dog .. was very happy with its overall performance .. the bikes are comfortable and reliable.. have never heard of a FS with frame issues .. you might get a compensation nod from the seller, but you still got a great deal .. if the chips bother you, head to a hobby shop and match the color (Testors bottle paint) ..
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Thank you @BruceMetras, @HighValleyRanch, @jur, @linberl, @Bonzo Banana, @edelay, and @downtube! I appreciate you all taking a look and sharing your thoughts. The bike has been dropped off at a local bike shop for re-assembly and a tune-up. I will report back with an update, but I agree with the consensus - if the bike is in good shape from a functional standpoint, that outweighs the cosmetic issues. I will likely reach out to the seller with some photos and a description after I've gotten the bike back.
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I just went to the bike shop and they reassembled and inspected everything. Apparently the main pivot is extremely tight and they suspect the bolt is bent and it was potentially damageD during shipping. They were unable to close/folds the bike even trying different levels of tightness and greasing. They suggested reaching out to Yan, which I did, so they can also get a sense of what the best course of action would be. Apparently they don't have this type of bolt on hand.

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It turns out one of the guys in the shop didn't know that the hinge had to be lifted to release and fold the bike. I'm sure that sounds pretty ridiculous. I remembered the action that was necessary from watching Yan's YouTube video and showed him. I have a feeling someone else may have assembled the bike and he only tried folding it for a second or two and came to his obviously incorrect conclusion. Once he saw the sticker decal with the up arrow at that hinge he admitted he didn't see that.

Aside from that he said everything functionally seems to be in good shape and it's a really nice bike.

I want to thank Yan for his assistance with some of my questions and troubleshooting even though I happened to get this bike on eBay. His level of customer service has been spectacular and I just wanted to give him an extra forum shout out.
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Woohoo! So glad it was a simple fix. I think not all shops are familiar with the peculiarities of folding bikes. Post back after you've had a couple rides and let us know how you like it.
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If you had to propose an amount to the seller for a price adjustment/partial refund due to the damage in shipping, what would that amount be? The original total with shipping was a little over $350. My initial thought was that $50 should be returned. Does that seem fair?

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Look for "Bazooka Folding bicycle" on Kickstarter website.
This bike is a full size beach cruiser which is great for your back injury (up right riding position), is a folding bike so you can store in your apartment easily and comes withe Gate Carbon Belt Drive and Shimano Nexus 3 Speed internal hub gearing system
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If you had to propose an amount to the seller for a price adjustment/partial refund due to the damage in shipping, what would that amount be? The original total with shipping was a little over $350. My initial thought was that $50 should be returned. Does that seem fair?
I think you got a good deal. I would encourage you to say thanks and let it go. Otherwise both you and the seller will get headaches none of you need.

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