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    Does anyone know anything about Biria folding bicycles? My girlfriend wants a folding bike - but wants to be able to put her feet flat on the ground and this biria is the closest we have found, she doesn't like my dahon and will only ride it with the seat at the lowest possible setting (which cannot be good for her knees)- her "real" bike is a raleigh old fashioned type cruiser. Or is there some other flat foot folder that anyone knows about? thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by farrellcollie
    Does anyone know anything about Biria folding bicycles? My girlfriend wants a folding bike - but wants to be able to put her feet flat on the ground and this biria is the closest we have found, she doesn't like my dahon and will only ride it with the seat at the lowest possible setting (which cannot be good for her knees)- her "real" bike is a raleigh old fashioned type cruiser. Or is there some other flat foot folder that anyone knows about? thanks
    Howdy!

    I looked at this model myself. I happen to *love* the look of it - very retro-1950's scooter.

    34lbs though & an internal 3-speed hub and coaster brake. I don't see a practical way to upgrade to regular brakes and a normal rear-derailleur.

    Seems expensive for what you get but perhaps the lack of cross-tube is worth it to some. (?)

    What Dahon do you have? I tried the 2004 Impulse D6 Aluminum and LOVED it from a comfort standpoint - more so than my KHS. About half the price of the Biria or KHS as best as I could tell. Riding posture on the Impulse is extremely comfortable - very upright with high handle-bars and much like I'd imagine the Biria.

    Maybe the low step over height is the ONLY selling point for her but consider: lugging 34lbs+ versus a 22lb Dahon may also be a factor "once the honeymoon's over." As I recall, the step over was only 12 or 18 inches on the Dahon. It's gotta be 6 or so on the Biria...that's only a 6 to 8 inch difference.

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    The weight and the folding size are not as important as the ability to sit on the seat and put both feet on the ground. That is why we have the heavy raleigh retroglide (I think that is what it is called). THis is the only folder I have seen which appears to allow rider to sit and be flat footed at the same time. The other problem is that here in st. louis - like a lot of other places - we have no bike shops that carry any folding bikes in stock -so she is only familiar with my dahon speed 8 and friend's khs - both of which do not have the proper feel for her. I think I spent one whole day calling every shop in the phone book before I got my dahon and my friend got the khs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by af895
    ...internal 3-speed hub and coaster brake. I don't see a practical way to upgrade to regular brakes and a normal rear-derailleur.
    And what is so special about derailleurs and rim brakes? Or to phrase it another way, what is "wrong" with a normal/regular three-speed hub and coaster brake? Other than personal preference, of course...

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    Quote Originally Posted by farrellcollie
    The weight and the folding size are not as important as the ability to sit on the seat and put both feet on the ground. That is why we have the heavy raleigh retroglide (I think that is what it is called). THis is the only folder I have seen which appears to allow rider to sit and be flat footed at the same time. The other problem is that here in st. louis - like a lot of other places - we have no bike shops that carry any folding bikes in stock -so she is only familiar with my dahon speed 8 and friend's khs - both of which do not have the proper feel for her. I think I spent one whole day calling every shop in the phone book before I got my dahon and my friend got the khs.
    Hi,
    The flat foot thing is more popular than some think. Electra Bicycles has an entire line of them (non-folding, sorry) with cool names like "Rockabilly Boogie". My own wife rides the Trek Sole Ride (named because the soles of the feet should be able to touch the ground).
    About her folder, quality aside, would she be happy with something like this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paiyili
    About her folder, quality aside, would she be happy with something like this?
    I have seen those on ebay - but I am worried about the quality - I know if stuff didn't work (like brakes and gears) she wouldn't ride it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paiyili
    About her folder, quality aside, would she be happy with something like this?
    * Frame is steel so it should be durable, one would hope. It sure is heavy enough.
    * Can't see the folding mechanism too clearly - I'd want to check this.
    * To have a compact fold, it looks like you have to physically remove the seat and handle bars - how often do you plan to fold it?
    * I'd personally stay away from 24" wheels. Can't find enough decent tire, rim, or tube sizes in the U.S. However, Terry uses 24" wheel for their bikes, so they might be a source or know a source.

    Otherwise I like the looks.

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    A 20 inch wheeled Dahon Boardwalk 7 Is not low enough?If it is, it is a very good bike and much lighter than a Biria.They are on sale at Camping world if you have a local outlet. I think the price is 269 dollars,this appears to be an in store sale.I know of a Camping world in Bolingbrook Illinois off of I-55.Also Clarksville Indiana ( I do not know if there is a rail connection but plan on taking the last train there, you could be there by 4:30 if you made your reservation ,don't be slow!Oh no,no no,Oh no no no! ) and Bowling green Kentucky.Those two would probably be nearest you.
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    How tall is she? It seems to me that the seat post on the speed p8 could go low enough. And now that the handleposts are adjustable ("now" meaning in the past couple of years...I have a 2003 speed p8 that came with a non-adjustable handlepost) I'd say she should be able to dial in the right position... The only problem I can really think of is the reach to the handle bar might be a little long for a low and laid back riding position. For this you could exchange the handle bar with a more curved one to bring the grips back farther...this might effect folding though.

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    I second that Electra Townie. It's no folding bike, but it seems to be exactly what she's looking for.

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    I was a bit awkward on my Dahon Boardwalk when I first bought it. I kept the seat so low that I could place my feet on the ground whenever I felt the need to. One day soon after I bought it, I stopped my bike in the middle of the ride and raised the seat up to the proper riding height for me since my knees were in such great pain. It stopped as soon as I did this and never returned. When your friend is ready to ride at the proper position on the seatpost, she will do so when she is ready. I hope she will purchase the best possible bike for her rather than succumb to a rather temporary uncomfortable feeling that might cloud her good judgement.

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    Thanks for all the suggestions. We really are looking for a folder because she already has a comfort bike that she likes and uses (a raliegh but along the lines of the electra)- the folder would be for travel in the back of a station wagon. (putting that huge bike on my roof rack is a giant pain). I am hoping she will use my dahon enough so that she gets comfortable (but that she doesn't hurt her knees by keeping it down so low) so we can go that route. If we get the biria - I will let you know.

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    I put my feet flat on the ground ( My hands remain on the handlebar)when i am stopped on a bike with my butt off the seat and use the rotation of the pedals when starting again to bring me back up. I then straighten my legs and plant my bottom on the saddle.Oh by the way ,there is no passenger train service to Clarksville that i can find, but i love the song ,and depending on when you left you could be there 4:30.I love the music of those small primates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by randya
    And what is so special about derailleurs and rim brakes? Or to phrase it another way, what is "wrong" with a normal/regular three-speed hub and coaster brake? Other than personal preference, of course...
    I was speaking to my personal preference.
    Like many things, you adapt to what you have on hand.

    For me, I like the ease of service of conventional brakes. I have no idea how to service a coaster brake.

    3-speeds was way too limiting for me. I was willing to tolerate a 7-speed but lucked out and found a folder with 16 speeds. I've used most of them. I don't think a 3-speed would have lasted long for me...

    To each their own!

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    Quote Originally Posted by farrellcollie
    Thanks for all the suggestions. We really are looking for a folder because she already has a comfort bike that she likes and uses (a raliegh but along the lines of the electra)- the folder would be for travel in the back of a station wagon. (putting that huge bike on my roof rack is a giant pain). I am hoping she will use my dahon enough so that she gets comfortable (but that she doesn't hurt her knees by keeping it down so low) so we can go that route. If we get the biria - I will let you know.
    Just a thought: she could go with shorter crank arms on a more conventional bike (eg: not the Biria) that would let her lower the seat a bit.

    As I see it, if you go with the Biria, you have a VERY limited "flight envelope" (flat land basically). Shortened cranks - even severely shortened ones - might limit the envelope of something like a Dahon but probably not to the level that the Biria probably is out of the box.

    This is all hypothetical - I haven't tried this.

    Don't let me disuade you from the Biria. If it does the job, it's a good looking bike and I hear it's tough as bricks. Just thinking about the cost vs. Dahon.

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    Actually shorter crank arms wil necessitate raising the saddle not facilitate it's lowering.Try the technique i outlined in my last post.

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