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Old 09-10-17, 05:46 AM   #1
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Vincita 4-Wheel Transport Bags for Brompton

The Thai Vincita is now offering two 4-wheeled bags for transporting Bromptons, B132C


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Recently I traveled with a Brompton in a 2-wheeled Vincita bag B132B, mixing air, train and bus, and having 2 wheels only was a major drag. I had to maneuver several pieces of luggage. The B132B bottom sagged and rubbed the ground forcing me to lift the front of B132B extra high. I felt that a rigid bottom to the bag with 4 rather than 2 wheels would be a major improvement. With this, the new Vincita bags could offer a a way forward. There is some increase in weight but still tolerable, ~1kg. However the wheels in B132C/H are in-line rather than spinner. If bottoms of these bags sag, the advantage of 4 wheels disappears as one needs to lift one side anyway. (The photo already suggests a problem.) Has anybody got an experience with either of these bags, B132C or B132H? I believe they can be used for other bikes too.

The wheels seem to be velcroed to the bags. I.e. one might think of a replacement of the in-line wheels with spinner.

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I just ordered a two B132H. Did the $80 express shipping, hope it comes in time by end of the month since I am leaving for a trip.

Their promo video at least look cool and usable. We'll see.
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I just ordered a two B132H. Did the $80 express shipping, hope it comes in time by end of the month since I am leaving for a trip.
Wow, I will be looking forward to some report from that experience. I emailed Vincita with few questions about the new bags, and did that even twice because of an update to a question, but failed to get any response, even an acknowledgement saying that someone will get to me.

In the meantime I did tests with my B132B putting its non-wheeled side on a small platform I build with spinner wheels and it is obvious that the handling of the bag could be vastly improved. If Vincita continues to ignore me, I may ignore them too and go ahead with my own modifications rather than buying anything new from them. By now I have been their customer 2 or 3 times so this extra upsets me.
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Wow, I will be looking forward to some report from that experience. I emailed Vincita with few questions about the new bags, and did that even twice because of an update to a question, but failed to get any response, even an acknowledgement saying that someone will get to me.

In the meantime I did tests with my B132B putting its non-wheeled side on a small platform I build with spinner wheels and it is obvious that the handling of the bag could be vastly improved. If Vincita continues to ignore me, I may ignore them too and go ahead with my own modifications rather than buying anything new from them. By now I have been their customer 2 or 3 times so this extra upsets me.
You can buy wheels are any hardware store and put on your own velcro.

I've never ordered from Vincita before, doesn't seem assuring that they didn't respond to your inquiries. Can only give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they are so busy making stuff to ship out. Hopefully mine does.
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The person who receives the emails probably has poor English language skills.?
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You can buy wheels are any hardware store and put on your own velcro.
When you look at details it is more complicated. You need the bottom to be rigid enough and you do not want to overly increase thickness or weight. The wheels need to stick out. When they did for 2 wheels in my bag they were not thinking about 4. You sort of need to roll back what they did and restart.

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I've never ordered from Vincita before, doesn't seem assuring that they didn't respond to your inquiries. Can only give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they are so busy making stuff to ship out. Hopefully mine does.
I was even checking whether there were some holidays now in Thailand but there are none there in the calendar and you obviously managed to order. I will have to wait at least a while no matter what because I have no time for a project anytime soon, even collecting materials. Wish you luck with the order. Hopefully it reaches you in time for your trip. Extra time when you can afford tripping with the equipment that needs to be reliable during the trip also helps.

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On the website they encourage inquiries.
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I emailed Vincita with few questions about the new bags, and did that even twice because of an update to a question, but failed to get any response, even an acknowledgement saying that someone will get to me.
Sounds almost like my Andersen experience...

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You need to start here: https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...heels&_sacat=0
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I was even checking whether there were some holidays now in Thailand but there are none there in the calendar and you obviously managed to order. I will have to wait at least a while no matter what because I have no time for a project anytime soon, even collecting materials. Wish you luck with the order. Hopefully it reaches you in time for your trip. Extra time when you can afford tripping with the equipment that needs to be reliable during the trip also helps.
How long have Vincita been ignoring you? I purchased my order online via their website, didn't talk to anyone. Maybe try contacting them via their facebook page.

In the past, I've email NYCEwheels and sometimes they respond the same day, other times 3-5 days later. Their phone support is quicker but isn't that great depending on who picks up the phone. They put the phone down randomly to talk to other people while you are talking to them. . I've order 4 times so far and 2 of those orders had missing items and parts installed. Feels like one of their worker was sloppy or lazy.

Since you've been using the B132B, do you have the Garment Bag? Worth getting? I was just going to use my normal luggage organizer pouches to stuff cloths inside the B132H

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Vincita have been updating their Facebook page. Try sending them a Facebook message.

Perhaps your emails have not made it into their Inbox - hence no reply? Silence does not automatically imply they have been ignoring you...
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I emailed Vincita on Saturday. My NYCEwheels experiences were pretty good so far, by like in your case these were just several and 4 out of 4 good experiences is not really a lot of statistics. On an occasion I met though the first Brompton dealer in Seattle who said that he was a close friend of the owner of NYCEwheels and he started reminiscing about their beginnings on the two coasts decades ago. The Seattle guy seemed like a very nice guy so by connection I expected the NY guy to be nice too. This was few years ago, though, and there might have been a change in ownership in the meantime on one or the other coast.

P.S. I did Facebook page too.
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I emailed Vincita on Saturday. My NYCEwheels experiences were pretty good so far, by like in your case these were just several and 4 out of 4 good experiences is not really a lot of statistics. On an occasion I met though the first Brompton dealer in Seattle who said that he was a close friend of the owner of NYCEwheels and he started reminiscing about their beginnings on the two coasts decades ago. The Seattle guy seemed like a very nice guy so by connection I expected the NY guy to be nice too. This was few years ago, though, and there might have been a change in ownership in the meantime on one or the other coast.

P.S. I did Facebook page too.
Interesting, i commented on their facebook post with a question and they responded in like 30min. Also, they already shipped my order with tracking#, be here early next week then you can ask me questions instead of Vincita if they haven't responded to you =]

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Interesting, i commented on their facebook post with a question and they responded in like 30min. Also, they already shipped my order with tracking#, be here early next week then you can ask me questions instead of Vincita if they haven't responded to you =]
OK, they replied to the facebook post earlier today. For the email I still got no response, and yes I checked my junk folder many times looking for their reply. One important point there that can be of interest to everybody is that you can order the bags without bike logos, just need to let them know about it. When I was ordering my B132B there was no such explicit option and I spent a couple of hours removing the hint that there may be a bike inside.

With this the path forward begins to clear. Given that I have no travel in near future for which I want to take the Brompton along, I will still stall though, to hopefully hear from you, Hisamatsu, about your experiences with the bags.
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OK, they replied to the facebook post earlier today. For the email I still got no response, and yes I checked my junk folder many times looking for their reply. One important point there that can be of interest to everybody is that you can order the bags without bike logos, just need to let them know about it. When I was ordering my B132B there was no such explicit option and I spent a couple of hours removing the hint that there may be a bike inside.

With this the path forward begins to clear. Given that I have no travel in near future for which I want to take the Brompton along, I will still stall though, to hopefully hear from you, Hisamatsu, about your experiences with the bags.
Yea, I ordered without the bicycle logo, it was an option to select. How did you remove the logos on your B132B? Heat it up with hair blow dryer and scratch it off?
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.... On an occasion I met though the first Brompton dealer in Seattle who said that he was a close friend of the owner of NYCEwheels and he started reminiscing about their beginnings on the two coasts decades ago. The Seattle guy seemed like a very nice guy so by connection I expected the NY guy to be nice too. This was few years ago, though, and there might have been a change in ownership in the meantime on one or the other coast.

P.S. I did Facebook page too.
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I was even checking whether there were some holidays now in Thailand but there are none there in the calendar and you obviously managed to order.
From their facebook it follows that they were celebrating their 30th anniversary and sponsoring a meal at an orphanage this passing Monday. Obviously they are excused, free to ignore me for such reasons.

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How did you remove the logos on your B132B? Heat it up with hair blow dryer and scratch it off?
The heater did not help at all and I have a heavy duty one that can melt plastic when needed. I ended up with chemical removal, alcohol/paint thinner - don't remember anymore, but you start with the gentlest possible to spare plastics and stay away from edges where vinyl may be imbedded. I tried first on a bag with logos given to participants at some meeting. The chemical dissolved the logo that then covered the bag with a haze. I had to soak the bag pretty bad to get it off.
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The heater did not help at all and I have a heavy duty one that can melt plastic when needed. I ended up with chemical removal, alcohol/paint thinner - don't remember anymore, but you start with the gentlest possible to spare plastics and stay away from edges where vinyl may be imbedded. I tried first on a bag with logos given to participants at some meeting. The chemical dissolved the logo that then covered the bag with a haze. I had to soak the bag pretty bad to get it off.
Seems painful to do, I would have just glued on another logo or something covering it. I did that with several of my camera backpacks/bags.
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Seems painful to do, I would have just glued on another logo or something covering it. I did that with several of my camera backpacks/bags.
I did that for T-bags but it is not very practical for large logos on large bags - you do not want them to attract attention and invite questions, even casual, when having large masking structures. After the logo removal the bag became a black structureless boring shape completely uninspiring for any questions - right where I wanted it.
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I did that for T-bags but it is not very practical for large logos on large bags - you do not want them to attract attention and invite questions, even casual, when having large masking structures. After the logo removal the bag became a black structureless boring shape completely uninspiring for any questions - right where I wanted it.
If the logo is large cover it up and make it look like it is part of the bag. Like sew/hot-glue on something that looks like a side pocket, better yet make it a real pocket, but that might be as much work as your removal technique.

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Guess it kinda of explains my recent experience with them. They are nice/patient if they know you are about to order something. But, once the inquiry is about a problem or issue with an existing order they are less enthusiastic and try to get the call over fast. Their computer data system seems like they look up order by paper. Some items listed on their website isn't accurate, you'll order a small but they send you large. Order one item, discover isn't in-stock and substitute it with another.

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