Originally Posted by Mr_Super_Socks
I think the speed 8 is a better bike out of the box, but the downtube is a better value. The dahon's folding design and the actual folding mechanisms are more elegant and better designed
Thanks for your comparison.
I just received my Downtube this past week and will do a similar review, but in short I think some impressions are (I'm 6'0", 170lbs, 34.5" inseam):
- should preface all of this with a non-folding riding background , so I don't know what to expect. Certainly there are inherent limitations.
- I think the front suspension fork is unnecessary, espec. with shipped tires.
- tires that came with it are way too beefy (heavy) for me. Not important since replaceable.
- think the BB should have been offset appropriately to let the seatpost slide all the way down when folded.
- gearing is good, but the grip shifter seems sloppy (but that's a $15 replacement since 8spd is so cheap). Seems to shift well in one direction, but not in the other.
- agree with your points about the value included (rack + fenders + bag would be $100)
- like the adjustability of the front stem height. It's perfect for taller people.
- pretty well assembled out of the box. Just the derailleur dialing in a bit. The wheels were perfectly true, brakes right on. Shipping packaging: seems like some wall padding would be desireable. My box arrived with a pedal that had kicked out the wall of the box (but no damage it seems).
- like the bar ends. Braking seems very adequate.
- being my first folder, the mechs for this seem good and well safety protected (stem bend/frame). However, the clamp onto the "final" stem is not so. I could get it to slip a bit into the clamping tube.
- and this nagging feeling while climbing or just going - why am I not going faster? I need to develop that feeling a bit more with quantifying that using similar pedals to a normal bike. Eventually would like to put on those MKS RR-2 and power grips. These folding pedals that come with it just really don't save that much space - there's a lot of
- am also having a bit of trouble seeing how the stated folding specs are quickly met (12x24x33) - but it must be possible, since that seems to be the size of the bag.
Need more time.. It's fun to ride. It seems really maneuverable, guess that's how most folders feel. Plan to turn the bars outward or put slight risers that get the handle bars further from me. Less distance between me and the bars than I'm used to.