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Old 02-23-06, 07:06 AM   #1
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Quick and Dirty Helios P8 Review

After running my Dahon Impulse D6 into the ground and finding that getting decent parts at sensible prices was nigh on impossible I decided just to replace the bike with a Helios P8. Hopefully this quick rundown will help anyone whose interested in a mid range Dahon folder:

The Good:

Its light - Im a farily big guy but carrying round 14 kilos of folding bike is a pain, especially if you've got any kind of upper body injury. At 12 kg the Helios is much easier to lug about than the Impulse.

It comes with decent tyres - Saves 55 euros off replacing the nasty Kenda's that came with the Impulse which punctured on a regular basis, like every time I rode the bike.

You dont need to unhinge the bars to get it to fold properly - Every little helps.

Looks tasty - Gets you respect of the other commuters, although possibly not from the Brompton riding bowler hat wearing, city types. No loss there.

Rides very well - Although so did the Impulse when you put Primo Comets on it however the P8 is definatey an improvement.

Comfy - Suspension seat and adjustable bars/stem are big step forward.

The Bad

Poor finish on components - The rack has marked already.

No proper chainguard - For the love of God which looks cooler, a factory designed chain guard in keeping with the style of the bike or riding around with one trouser leg tucked in your sock like a window licker?

Nasty gear change - First bicycle Ive ever owned which needed a clutch. Yes it really is that bad.

Overall though Im well chuffed especially since I got it at a great price in the factory packaging. There was hardly anything to do to get it into a running state, dont believe the LBS hype - these bikes come pretty much ready to roll straight from the factory.
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Old 02-23-06, 07:18 AM   #2
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Overall though Im well chuffed especially since I got it at a great price in the factory packaging. There was hardly anything to do to get it into a running state, dont believe the LBS hype - these bikes come pretty much ready to roll straight from the factory.
Don't you have to get it inspected at a Dahon-dealing LBS in order to activate the warranty on the frame?
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Thats a very good question, Ill email the shop that sold it to me to find out. It will come with a statutory one year warranty from them anyway so unless theres an extended frame warranty (and I think there might be) it wouldnt be an issue.
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have you checked spoke tension? I have the impression that the factory is not too clever with this
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have you checked spoke tension? I have the impression that the factory is not too clever with this
No problems, both wheels are true and the spokes appear to be at the correct tension. The wheels on the Impulse lasted about 4.5k km's under the worst possible conditions before the rear needed replacing (both the hub and rim were knackered). I think the Dahon wheelset issues tend to be more prevalent in the States where the riders (and I mean no disrespect) are quite a bit heavier.

In fact I would say they are better built than the Gipiemme T3's on my Cannondale road bike, but thats purely subjective.
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Nasty gear change - First bicycle Ive ever owned which needed a clutch. Yes it really is that bad.
You need to bring the bike back for adjustments. Sounds like the cable streched because my Dahon Speed 7 shifts like butter.
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You need to bring the bike back for adjustments. Sounds like the cable streched because my Dahon Speed 7 shifts like butter.
But this isnt a 7 speed, its a 8 using an totally different deraulleur (SRAM 3.0). The stops are properly adjusted and the indexing is perfect its just the change between gears is harsh. I knew this would be a problem before I bought the bike (Id read it in other reviews) but I can live with it as I dont change gear very much.
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Brompton riding bowler hat wearing, city types.
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Don't you have to get it inspected at a Dahon-dealing LBS in order to activate the warranty on the frame?
With big thanks going to the person who helped me out on this Ive found out that you can activate your frame warranty via the Dahon website without LBS involvement.

I forgot to add that this bike is fitted with grips just like the Cobra's that came with my Puch BMX back in 1986, full on retro action dude.
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With big thanks going to the person who helped me out on this Ive found out that you can activate your frame warranty via the Dahon website without LBS involvement.

I forgot to add that this bike is fitted with grips just like the Cobra's that came with my Puch BMX back in 1986, full on retro action dude.
you can activate but it isnt a lifetime warranty. for that you DO need to get the LBS involved

http://www.dahon.com/support/warranty.htm
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