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Old 03-05-06, 12:29 AM   #1
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Neobike, Stepping up their game, looks like a Twenty

http://www.neobike.com/14f20.html?Frame=off

Neobike is a cheap and-not-so-reputable bike manufacturer. But this model does seem pretty good, maybe a nice 'ready made' alternative to a Raleigh Twenty or perhaps even a competitor to the DT...?

Too bad i could not find any specs.

Some of the other models are pretty interesting too.
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Interesting. As you spotted, the unfolded bike has a Raleigh Twenty look, perhaps exploiting the popularity of genuine old Twenties, but targeting people who don't want to do a lot of work restoring one, or who don't want to pay a bike shop to do it for them.

The folding operation looks more like a Dahon, though. Speaking of which, wasn't this company successfully sued by Dahon a while ago? Can't immediately find the details.

I think Neobike also used to do legitimate, licensed, Brompton copies, but Brompton decided to stop doing business with them a few years ago.
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Well, if they are cheap, and it takes standard parts, I would considering buying it because I like upgrading...because it is steel, I could have my bike guy braise on a front derailler hanger,
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@ Juan, yeah i had been thinking the same. Still it depends on whether the tubing is decent and the frame durable. Some of the components don't look half bad but the picture is unclear. It not having any specs is suspect as well though.

@ DaFriMon, i think you are right on both counts. I have read the same.

The fact that it:

Seems to have a normal BB that is cotterless, has V-Brakes/braze ons, has a normal headset, capability of using more forks, a fold handlebar are all great advantages when compared to a Twenty.

I also like the simplicity of it,.. but compared to a Downtube it is somewhat bare since it has no suspension, mudguards, rack or bag. So whether it is worth it.. Like the color a lot.

However this is what i read on: http://nordicgroup.us/fold/#Neobike

Neobike versus Dahon

Like most folding bicycle manufacturers, Neobike violates some DaHon patents (in particular, the fold down steering tube, used by on many folding bicycles, including Bromptons). I was talking to Joshua Hon (son of the founder of DaHon) about seven years ago, and learned the story. Neobike was started by individuals who were employed by DaHon, and who were sent to the U.K. to negotiate a licensing deal with Brompton. DaHon was going to manufacture the Brompton under license. Instead, these employees negotiated a licensing deal for themselves with Brompton, and started Neobike. DaHon sued Neobike. Even though this case started more than TEN YEARS AGO, it just came to conclusion in April 2002. Five Neobike employees were sentenced to five months in jail and DaHon can now move to recover monetary damages.

Dahon Wins Intellectual Patent Rights Case

APRIL 17, 2002 -- TAIPEI, Taiwan (BRAIN)--Folding-bike maker Dahon won an intellectual property rights case against Neobike, a company founded by former Dahon employees.

Ten years after the case was filed, a Taiwanese superior court judge sentenced five Neobike employees to five months in jail. Dahon accused the employees of stealing Dahon technology when they left the company and using it to build Neobikes.

The verdict opens the door for Dahon to pursue damages. Dahon officials said they are examining their options and expect to move to recover damages. Neobike cannot appeal the decision. Neobike officials could not be reached for comment.
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If the people behind the company (the seem to be around on line) are the same they may not deserve to be supported on principle, though on the other hand i am very oppossed to patents in some ways and 5 months in Taiwanese prison is harsh indeed. Confusing.....

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