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    Folding bike junkie! Wavshrdr's Avatar
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    A while ago I decided to clear out some of my folders and concentrate on my favorite project bikes. I was running out of room in the house. I thought that Iíd put one of my Bromptons up for sale and see if I had any takers. That thing got hit like the latest greatest lure at a Bass Master's fishing tournament. I didnít even have it listed for entire day and it was gone. Makes me think my elegant prose was responsible for its quick sale. I probably should have listed the other one I planned on selling at the same time if I had known the climate is so good.

    Sort of a similar situation when I sold my Dahon SpeedPro a while back. I got exactly what I was looking to get out of it and the buyer got a good deal as well. Something I have learned from this is that if you buy a mainstream folder manufacturer you probably arenít going to get killed on your resale of them IF you keep them in good shape and take plenty of good photographs. Learn how to use English in an effective manner and with good grammar and punctuation.

    What amazed me the most is on my Brompton is that it had 5 people watching it in the first hour I had it listed. Just in case you didnít know eBay gives you a little statistic that tells you how many people are watching your item to possibly bid on it later. I had a chance to check it about 15 hours after I listed it and there were already 30 people watching it! I have no idea how many were at the end because my work blocks eBay and I am so busy I wouldnít have time to look at it anyway and I try to be a good employee anyway. Gotta keep your job if you want to support a folding bike habit!

    A few other things I observed while selling my used bikes on eBay is that there really arenít that many used folders on there (in the USA that is). As a result there tends to be more interest in them but it makes it more difficult to determine what kind of money it will bring. I did notice that a lot of foreigners were writing to ask me about shipping it overseas. In the end eBay has been good to me for reselling my folders. Out of the 4 folders I planned on selling, I was able to sell 2 of them quite easily; Brompton and Dahon. Now I will try to sell another Brompton and Dahon and see if I am as successful. I would sell one of my Downtubes but quite honestly I figured it was a write-off when I bought it in the first place. By that I mean that it wasnít very expensive to begin with and why would anyone want to give me decent money for mine if they can buy a new one from Yan in the first place for not much more. That is the disadvantage of buying a DT. I donít figure there to be much of a resale market for them but I donít know. If his prices rise a bit then it will increase the value of mine. Too early to tell but food for thought.

    The one bad thing about eBay is the listing fees and final value fees can take a chunk out of your money so be careful how you list especially when using a reserve price or buy-it-now option. If anyone is interested Iíll post my results of my final 2 sales, Brompton and Dahon, after I get them listed and sold. I might even be willing to sell one of my DTs just to see what kind of response I get. It might be useful information for some of you. Let me know if you are interested in my results. I can't see that eBay is the best place to sell a folder but where I live there is still snow on the ground and people aren't thinking bikes quite yet. If you can sell one word of mouth that would be best or perhaps Cragslist. I personally didn't want to wait a long time for it sometimes sell on Craigslist. I wanted it gone NOW! Even if I didn't get the maximum $$$ I could have I just wanted it out of the way.

    One last thing to throw out there. What methods have any of you used that were successful in selling your bikes? So far eBay and Craigslist have been the best for me. eBay can be tricky though if your item doesn't trade in enough numbers to have a good idea of price. A Moulton is a perfect example of this and so is Birdy at least in the US.

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    I've sporadically searched for Swift Folders on ebay and the search has always come up empty. You're right about the general lack of folding bikes on ebay and in some cases the complete lack of specific bikes, especially from smaller makers.
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    I am not sure if you are interested in a fixed-gear swift, here's a link to a used "steel" swift folder that's for sale from mtbr.com's classifieds: http://classifieds.mtbr.com/cgi-bin/...uery=retrieval

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    Quote Originally Posted by knight9413
    I am not sure if you are interested in a fixed-gear swift, here's a link to a used "steel" swift folder that's for sale from mtbr.com's classifieds: http://classifieds.mtbr.com/cgi-bin/...uery=retrieval
    Weren't pictures of that Swift posted in the Swift thread before? It looks very familiar.

    @jyossarian- I know when I was looking for a Swift I couldn't find any used either. I used the same logic when I bought my Swift as a DT in that I knew it could potentially be very hard to sell it unless I could find the right buyer. Although I have had quite a few people offer to buy it if I ever decide to sell it so maybe it might not be too difficult to sell. Hopefully my Brompton and Dahon will go as quickly as the last ones. I don't want to jinx myself though.

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    keep us posted for sure. it is interesting for sure .... Couple monmths ago there was a chinese outfit which was liting dahons for 127 dlr and 100 dlr shipping ... I reported them as fraud and got them thrown out one by one.. I think finally the guy stayed away ....
    biggest deal on ebay fraud is when the seller only accepts western union and usually has low points ( when you check these came all at the same day from his buddy ...for winning a penny ....also private feedback is such an animal )
    One cannot buy a flo for 10 bucks on ebay ... but good deals can be found .

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    How do you usually figure out the shipping cost when you are trying to sell something on ebay? I am not trying to sell anything, but always interested to know how people make those text box that you can type in your zip code and it'll automatically let you know the how much shipping & handling will be.

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    I sold my VERY USED UP Dahon Piccolo on Craigs list last month. The response I got was incredible compared to my Bianchi Milano that's in very good condition did not sell! Folders sell fast.

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    shipping on ebay
    when you list an item you can use their shipping calculator..... In order to do so you need to know the weight and also the size of the carton ( in case its oversized ) you can choose from mail ups and so forth .... than you can add a handling charge and so forth .... It is somewhat correct what the shipping calculator shows, but some people add horrendeous amounts of handling charges....

    people think its true what the calculator shows them ... and again it is, UNLESS you add the charges.
    I kinda like the system as it clearly shows what the shipping will be , instead of finding out later that the seller wants 20 dlr packing plus 30 dlr shipping, when I know the actual shipping is 10 bucks .

    its a really slick system though

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    Where does the stuff on eBay come from:
    1) Retailers. I see a new Dahon Presto Lite for sale at $529 including shipping. Down Tube for $150.
    2) People who have a bike they thought was nice until they bought it. I have seen 3 presto lites for sale at craigslist in the last 3 weeks, $450 w some extras. In general if you want a regular bike you will not be happy with a similar priced folder. My guess is that Swift does not sell many bikes, and they are liked by the people who own them. Dahon Boardwalk seems to be more liked.
    3) Forced sales due to death, injury, bankrupcy.
    4) Moving and need to reduce volume of posessions
    5) realization that you will never use that bike.
    6) Girl friend throws you out and sells your stuff.

    Dahon is big on these sites because there are alot of Dahons and they are not particularly loved or even un loved by their owners, but potential buyers are out there. Presto Lite is an example of a bike that sounds good until you use it for long distances over less than smooth terrain.

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    What's a good starter entry folder?

    I first read about these folders in a free local mag. And they seem like a good addition in terms of rounding out your transport (needs or wants.)

    I'm willing to be patient, getting it when I'd need it. Purpose of using it will be:
    * Commuting with train assistance for the middle part of the journey.(ability to take it on trains or buses)
    * Touring, using the ability to fold to allow easier travel by public transport Ė train, plane or boat.
    # Riding to a destination and returning by car or public transport
    # General cycling, including shopping and day rides, without folding.

    Seems like most people on this thread choose the 20" wheels over the regular bike looking 26" wheels. Easier to carry, transport, etc. So is the 26" all that troublesome to carry on and fit into trains and buses? Is it better if it can be wheeled? Or fitted into bag? (is bagging important?; makes it easier to transport?)

    Is the Army Recon a good (enough) folder? With low-entry price, not too shabby an appearance. Being offered on eBay 230-250 range. (included shipping) Then there's Montague (any comments on the Hummer?), Dahon (good overall balance), the enjoyable Swift's, (price range 500-600? in U.S?).

    Maybe best thing is to stop by a shop, test things out, add customizing, etc. (though price just might double and more) Is it all that necessary? Most folks just order straight from sites everyday, and things seem fine. (adequate enough...it's rideable...perhaps a few tweaks and adjustments along the way)

    At first browse, I like the Dahon espresso and a few others in their line, Hummer Montague, maybe even Army Recon (not sure if build material is as good though; didn't find much info over the net). Though if it's good enough in the Army, don't think there'd be much problems with basic metro city commuting. Or should I be thinking of smaller wheels, 20" and below? Easier to transport, carry? With regular 26", you could lock em' up like a regular bike. Blend in better. Less of target. (if that makes any diff)

    Any recommendations? Good value, good ride, balanced, rugged enough.

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    I wanted a folding bike for travel purposes. I looked at the (S&S) frame coupling options (I didn't like the setup work involved) and small wheel options (tested two and the twitchy ride scared me off) and ended up (after a test ride) deciding upon a Montague although I disliked the components. I wanted just the frame so I could build up my own bike (this method has worked out for me in the past) with my own choices in componants. Unfortunatly you can't get a Montague frame, so I turned to ebay where I found someone selling frames (a few componants too but I can remove those easy enough) at a good price. I'm in the process of building now, but so far it looks good. This was my second ebay frame purchase and both times I had a good experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Senexs
    Is the Army Recon a good (enough) folder? With low-entry price, not too shabby an appearance. Being offered on eBay 230-250 range. (included shipping) Then there's Montague (any comments on the Hummer?), Dahon (good overall balance), the enjoyable Swift's, (price range 500-600? in U.S?).

    Any recommendations? Good value, good ride, balanced, rugged enough.
    Just looked, that Army Recon is being offered at $144.95... doesn't look particularly Army issue..haha.. if you are looking for an full suspension 20" folder. I'd look at a Downtube FS for not much more money.. many on this forum have them (2 in my case) and the reviews from the owners have been extremely positive..

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    eBay let's buyers substitute their time and accept risk in exchange for a possibly lower price.

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