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    Its REALLY official. I finally took possession of my Swift

    I got it several days ago. This my first bicycle purchase in almost 35 years and I am really excited about having it. I want to thank Wav and the other members for this forum for helping me, in making the decision to get a folder and specifically, the Swift folder.
    Peter no longer sells steel frame but got in a used steel frame on a trade in, so I took it and he customized it for me. It's equipped with a 9sp 11-34 cassette and 54/39 chain rings. I had him put on Marathon Plus tires. It rides real well. I can't tell that I am riding a folder. Since I have only ridden with dropdown bars, i'll have to get used to the straight bars. I'll be travelling a majority of the year, so this will be my only bike i'll be using. I will miss the speed of a fast road bike but not enough to travel with 2 bikes. I'll be getting planet bike fenders, a compass bell, cyclecomputer, a topeak morph pump and a seatpost rack.

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    Congrats SG! You have some accessories lined up I see as well. Glad I could be of help. I think you will like the Morph pump. I have it and the Crank Brothes mini (w/gauge). Both are great pumps. Post pics when you can. I want to compare the steel frame to my aluminum one. :-)

    Are you going to do anything with lights?

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    Isn't it great !? I always like it when people react like this.

    SG, I know you've been waiting long enough to get that bike. Enjoy it ! You'll love your folder, and probably will ride it more than your other bike(s), you'll see....

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    You know what I'm going to say....

    pictures!!!

    We are all brothers in Swift. Welcome.

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    And where are the pictures?

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    He is too busy riding. ;-) I know the feeling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wavshrdr
    He is too busy riding. ;-) I know the feeling.
    I have been riding my Swifty but I have been mostly busy preparing to move out of my house next week. I finally took some photos of the Swift. It isn't nearly as pretty as Wav's green goddess. I wanted a great functional folder that people would take no notice of except perhaps folks here.
    So far I added a Performance QR seatpost rack, a Nashbar rack trunk, the Topeak Mtn Morph, a Cateye Enduro, Cateye EL400 and a Nashbar Bell Compass. I splurged and got the B17 and for security, I bought the Abus 810. I still need to order the planet fenders. I am thinking about getting the power grips and MKS folding pedals.
    I was temporarily using an old Brook Pro and even thought it was broken in many years ago it was a dissapointment. Its narrow size no longer fit me my larger rear end like a glove. Although I rode the B17 for only 15 miles so far, I was pleasantly surprised how comfortable the wider B17 was, even though it is still hard as a rock.
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    They say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery SG... you sure picked up on a lot of elements off my bike. COPYCAT!!!!!

    It is looking nice though. Black looks so serious. I see mine so often I forget that derailleurs are an option. Looks very business like. It looks good! Good job SG!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wavshrdr
    They say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery SG... you sure picked up on a lot of elements off my bike. COPYCAT!!!!!

    It is looking nice though. Black looks so serious. I see mine so often I forget that derailleurs are an option. Looks very business like. It looks good! Good job SG!
    Wait a minute, who's the copycat. Didn't I talk to you about getting a Swift last fall? I also suggested a bunch of options for you to get.

    I'm a serious rider and this Swift is my black limo.

    Thanks Wav.

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    Nice Swift SG. How much does she weigh w/o the rack and rack bag?
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    Sweet looking ride. The frame looks thinner than a normal Swift, is that right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jyossarian
    Nice Swift SG. How much does she weigh w/o the rack and rack bag?
    Thanks, simple but with a slight touch of elegance. I don't have a scale but Peter believes it weighs about 25lbs. He says the steel frame and seatpost only weighs 2 1/2 pounds more than the alum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tazman
    Sweet looking ride. The frame looks thinner than a normal Swift, is that right?
    Thanks again. It is thinner because it is a steel alloy frame rather than alum frame, Peter and Xootr now sell.

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    As you may remember the Swift is my 1st folder. I have been riding it exclusively and I really love it. It is pretty fast even with Marathon Plus tires. In the streets of NY, I am able to do 15 to 19+ mph with little effort. I have been experimenting with folding the bike and going into various places. I went to 2 different DMV offices and several supermarkets with no problem. I will try a restaurant next time. I did go into a post office but I didn't feel like folding my bike so they gave me a hard time. I may return there but this time fold it 1st.

    I do have some issues that I need to address.

    1) I am concerned about the chain coming off or jumping to my smaller chain ring when I hit bumpy streets at higher speeds. I am very concerned about this happening when I might need to quickly accelerate to move out of the way of traffic.
    I was thinking of putting in a front derailleur to prevent the chain from jumping but what do I do when I eventually will want to shift down to the 39 chain ring (definitely not in NYC though).

    2) My gearing is 54/39 with an 11-34 external cassette. Because NYC is fairly flat, I find that I could use a higher gearing than 54/11 when going down a very minor decline. I like spinning but there is a limit.

    Any suggestions to resolve for my 2 issues?
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    1.) Get one of the chain "guides" from Gaerlain (sp?) that they make for Dahons which seem to have more of this problem.

    2.) You are limited for maximum gearing because of the small wheels. Just live with it as my understanding is that you want to use it for touring too and once you load it down and go on worse roads the gearing should be fine.

    You have about 92 gear inches which is fairly tall. I have taller gearing with my internal hub than you do. I think my top gear is about 108 with my bike.

    What you are faced with is sort of a limit of how big you can on the front. The internal hub helped me out with a taller top gear because I can fine tune the entire range of the rear gear set by changing the rear sprocket. You might try going with a 59 up front but it won't buy you that much and it will make keeping the chain tension even more difficult.

    If it really gets to be an issue you could always go with a Schlumpf High Speed Drive which would give you a 2.5:1 ratio vs. your rear gears.
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    Stargazer,
    You can always plop some money down on a new rear wheel w/ a shimano capreo hub...it will give you a 9 tooth small cog. It also only goes to a 26 cog on the other end, so you would lose some easy gears that you need while on tour,
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    Downside to the Capreo will be increased chain wear. How often will you really need those upper gears. In the 90's for a touring bike is still pretty tall if you have any gear on it and the attendant wind drag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stargazer48

    1) I am concerned about the chain coming off or jumping to my smaller chain ring when I hit bumpy streets at higher speeds. I am very concerned about this happening when I might need to quickly accelerate to move out of the way of traffic.
    I was thinking of putting in a front derailleur to prevent the chain from jumping but what do I do when I eventually will want to shift down to the 39 chain ring (definitely not in NYC though).

    2) My gearing is 54/39 with an 11-34 external cassette. Because NYC is fairly flat, I find that I could use a higher gearing than 54/11 when going down a very minor decline. I like spinning but there is a limit.

    Any suggestions to resolve for my 2 issues?
    I purchased just the roller from the Gaerlan site to mount to my Xootr/Swift.. I'm running a 58t up front with a 9spd 11/34 in back.. before the roller, I could sometimes get the chain to drop over bumps while shifting, since the roller, hasn't happened again.

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    Thanks for the roller suggestions.
    I brought my Swift back to Peter today to upgrade the brake levers to Deore XT and do some maintenance. He is going to remove one chain link to tighten the chain. I'll give this a try 1st to see if this will eliminate the problem. I wont be able to use the 1st gear with the 54 chain ring but that's a small sacrifice.

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    Well, I took my folder to my 1st restaurant today. I folded the Swift up and carried it in. I suspected the fact the restaurant was fairly empty, didn't hurt. I had a really nice Indian lunch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceMetras
    I purchased just the roller from the Gaerlan site to mount to my Xootr/Swift.. I'm running a 58t up front with a 9spd 11/34 in back.. before the roller, I could sometimes get the chain to drop over bumps while shifting, since the roller, hasn't happened again.

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    Bruce,
    I recently got my Swift back from Peter who made a few changes I needed. To try to stop my chain from jumping, he removed 1 chain link to tighten the chain, but in the process, I am losing the 1st gear cause of the shorter chain length. Unfortunately, it didn't solve the problem as the chain still jumps off occasionally when I hit some bumps.
    I was wondering is your roller solution was still working? Does the roller come with parts for mounting? The website appears to only show the roller. Since I have a double chainring 54/39 will the mounted roller holding th chain make it difficult to move the chain from 54 to 39 and vice versa when I need it?

    Thanks for any advice you can give.

    SG

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