I got my first look at Downtubes on our showroom floor yesterday and I have to say I was impressed with them as a real value. Our Merc order should be in this week or next. We now have, I think, 12 brands of folders in our folder specialty store. I would have never have known to add the aforementioned two folders if I had not been a regular reader of this forum. I'm thankful for you folder devotees who keep me up to date.