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    Gobike update

    Go to http://www.timac.com.tw/gobike.htm to download a pdf brochure for the Gobike. It's in Chinese, but the penultimate page reveals the specs for the four available models clearly enough. The prices are in Taiwan dollars, but work out as follows:

    DLX8 [8-speed Touring] 11.8kg - USD969
    DLX9 [9-speed Deluxe] 11.7kg - USD1121
    SP9 [9-speed Wind Speed] 11.3kg - USD1303
    DD24 [24-speed Trekking] 12.9kg - USD1545

    These prices do not include tax (that's what the Chinese in brackets says), but I'm not really sure what that means. My local LBS here in Taiwan offered me the DLX9 at the stated price minus 10%, which makes it almost exactly USD1000.

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    *cough* vaporbike *cough*

    Has your LBS gotten an actual physical Gobike in the shop yet?

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    Yes. I had a look at it a few hours ago. It was the DLX9 in gray.

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    Here's my GoBike

    Hi all......I've owned this DLX8 for the past 2 years and it's pure joy! I purchased it from City Bikes in Toronto and the people at GoBike in Quebec are very accommodating with tech information and parts. I have seen only one other GoBike here in NYC.
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    If goBike had a decent website or a reliable source where we could make a phone call and actually talk to someone, I would strongly consider having a 20" wheels folder again. The compact fold is not significantly larger than a brompton, and I'm sure the riding geometry and full suspension cushioning would add some confort to the already better-to-jump-curbs 20" wheel.

    Too bad this is the second picture that I saw from someone that actually own one. Besides that and 2 catalog images, this is as hard to see as Shilun's Halfway RS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shilun
    Yes. I had a look at it a few hours ago. It was the DLX9 in gray.
    No way!!!

    Well, I'm glad to hear that they have an actual product somewhere on this planet. Hopefully they can iron out their issues and start shipping some bikes.

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    GoBike

    It is no small job being a small bike company. If it was an easy job, everybody would sell bike as advanced.

    Bringing to market a bike like the GoBike take lots of money or time. You have to pay for every non standard parts to be built beforehand.

    I was a bike rep for GoBike (Le Groupe Go) in 2004-2005. Lots of work have been done then.

    Lots of work have been done since. You will see more GoBike on the market in a few more months.

    Be patient. It will be worth it.

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    Better websites:

    http://www.long-john.com/pagegobike.htm
    http://translate.google.com/transla.../language_tools
    http://www.ingear.be/gobike/en/indexgb.asp
    http://homepage.mac.com/philipbrook/Menu10.html
    http://translate.google.com/transla....en/indexgb.asp
    http://www.gobike.jp/

    I agree- it looks gorgeous! My only cocern would be that aluminum swing arm. It looks a lot like the old Trek 9000 TC4 MTB. Back when I only weighed 190lbs, I could put so much torque while peddling, that the swing arms would flex and make the gears shift. Not horrible if it actually went into another gear, but a knee, crotch, face, etc... BUSTER if it went between gears: which it usually did.

    Now I weigh 215 - more to love my wife says-

    Marl
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    Delwong, I'd like to find out when you spoke to the people at Gobike. I bought a used gobike this year in Toronto and I need some parts and accessories for it but I find the company inaccessable. If you have s
    ome way of contacting them, I would love to know how.
    One thing I need but I don't know how important it is. The retention strap for the rear shock is broken. Why is that needed in the first place. I need a few other bits and pieces and I would really like to get a rack. I hope Guy is right about Gobike making their product available soon because I've been waiting all summer for them just to get their website going.
    Cheers from Toronto Keith

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    Try these contacts

    keithk..try contacting Rick Diver at City Bikes in Toronto, I bought my GoBike from him and he still might rep them..certainly he still maintains contact with GoBike, Alternately try GoBike at info@gobikeonline.com, Philip Brook is the owner and lead designer. Last time I contacted Philip was over the summer for several parts.

    In my opinion, I think the strap provides some fore and aft play, but mechanically the shock is anchored at the top and bottom. In regards to product availability, I sense that GoBike can't keep ahead of demand since their markets in Japan, the Natherlands and some parts of France, not to mention Canada, suck up all the product they can make in Quebec. Even though they have aspirations to sell here in NYC, they don't have enough stock to ship.......I've been waiting for a hard case for the last 2 years. For me, they fill a very important niche, ergonomically....and edgy designed folders that evoke high technology while providing performance, and I'm certain they are working toward solving the supply chain issue. Perservere man..it's worth it!

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    Is the Gobike really still made in Canada? My LBS claimed it was made in Taiwan now. Or maybe he meant assembled. I'm not sure.

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    I have no definitive information on the manufacturing in Taiwan, but I wouldn't be surprised. I know that Philip spent a lot of time in Taiwan over the summer. Just like the Swift, which was manufactured in the US until it joined forces with Xootr when manufacturing shifted to Taiwan, I guess the only way for GoBike to meet demand at the right price is to go to Asia.

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    The rear shock/ swing arm is only attached to the frame by the quick release, the strap allows the swing arm to arc sideways to allow for folding.
    This is a very bad weakness in the design, the swing arm swings about like a dog's tail and badly affects handling, I'm thinking about modifying the frame & swing arm so that one locates into the other via three sliding plates (2 on frame the other on the swingarm) Or with a pin that locates into a cone or similar.
    And that is without a luggage rack, or luggage (or mudguards) none of which are available after all this time. I wish GoBike would spend a little more time on customer service, website building, accessories etc. and less on self congratulatory back slapping about the latest press raves about this difficult to buy, impossible to maintain or customise using GoBike parts.
    Would I buy a GoBike now, knowing what I have learnt? No I wouldn't
    Try riding one at speed onto a cobbled section & you'll be lucky to stay on with the undamped spring on the front going into spasm mode.
    And it is made in Taiwan. Looks great, but just doesn't deliver!
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    I will first gracefully bow to this esteemed community and thank all of you for your interest, curiosity, comments (good or bad) about our designs, products and state of well-being. I will particularly salute the visionary support of some of you who have graced us with your belief in what we do by becoming owners of GoBikes. I could start on a long story today to explain our silences (I promise to make the story available one day on our website...) but instead I just wanted to give you a heads-up and confirm that the GoBike is alive and well and evolving... As some of you have stated in this thread, we've had staff in Taiwan for most of the summer to control the quality of orders that have made their way to a new distributor for Greater China (Timac) and... a production that will (finally!) make its way to North-America. We've also completed all the design and production approval for ALL GoBike accessories. This first batch of 2007 models with a limited supply of accessories will arrive on time for pre-Christimas shipments. I will stop here since I don't want to take space on this news group to make commercial announcements. I will finish by apologizing to all of you who have tried to contact us, are waiting for replies and news and invite all of you to come to our website in October for all the news and info you've been waiting for. In the meantime, please understand that we will continue to keep a low profile for a while in order to get the job done and not deceive anyone... see you soon at www.gobikeworld.com

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    Hi all..........some random thoughts about the GoBike

    My GoBike 4.0 DLX Pro is used in NYC for a variety of situations ranging from urban commuting to vigorous work-out cycling (all on paved surfaces) and it fulfills the niche admirably. The frame components are rigid with just the right amount of dampening from the front and rear suspension to deliver an efficient and responsive ride. The handlebar stem and seat post are adjustable to yield my preferred riding position – weight forward like a mountain bike, and also for my wife – more upright like a beach cruiser, and for my daughter – 5’-0” tall.

    Compared to other bikes I am familiar with, my riding impressions are:
    • Brompton has a jittery ride and upright position, the GoBike has a balanced ride, behaves and responds like a full size 700 wheel bike.
    •Birdy Red, the GoBike is not as mushy has a more efficient ride; and finally
    •Dahon Helios SL, the GoBike is not as fast off the mark but handles better and is much more comfortable.

    Some idiosyncrasies of owning the GoBike:
    •In the colder months, a tendency for creaking noises to emanate from the frame after coming out of a warm apartment. I believe this is caused by differential expansion of the aluminum parts and I usually tighten and lubricate the folding contact points to eliminate the sound.
    •Riding up a steep incline will require learning a new riding position that avoids “pulling” up on the handlebars and staying in the saddle.
    •Scarcity of parts and accessories, this appears to echo the opinion on this forum that GoBike is a phantom entity. There is no dealer in NYC and GoBike in Quebec is understandable focused on scaling up.

    The folding sequence is not as quick as the Brompton but much easier and quicker than the Birdy and Dahon. The size of the folded GoBike is larger than the Brompton but smaller than the Birdy and Dahon. The bike components are very well designed or selected and more importantly, standard; so, familiar to any qualified bike mechanic for servicing.

    One important reason I purchased the GoBike is for its holistic design, melding innovation and performance; obviously the vision of a strong designer. In my opinion there is no other bike out there that fills this niche.
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    GoBike's country of origin

    To clarify this issue, productions available previously to this past summer were either assembled in Canada or in Taiwan. From now on, all bikes sold through our distributors in Asia are assembled in Taiwan, so will be the vast majority of bikes that will be coming to North-America. We will make annoucements regarding Europe in the coming weeks, stay tuned!

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    Quote Originally Posted by delwong
    My GoBike 4.0 DLX Pro is used in NYC for a variety of situations ranging from urban commuting to vigorous work-out cycling (all on paved surfaces) and it fulfills the niche admirably.
    The folding sequence is not as quick as the Brompton but much easier and quicker than the Birdy and Dahon. The size of the folded GoBike is larger than the Brompton but smaller than the Birdy and Dahon. The bike components are very well designed or selected and more importantly, standard; so, familiar to any qualified bike mechanic for servicing.

    One important reason I purchased the GoBike is for its holistic design, melding innovation and performance; obviously the vision of a strong designer. In my opinion there is no other bike out there that fills this niche.
    I'll keep my eyes open for you on the bike path. I looked at the specs for the Japanese version, and it's impressive that it comes in at 25 pounds with all that suspension and Kenda Kwest tires! (I don't get the crappy tires on a bike with such amazing components.) What are the specs on your bike? How much does it run for in Canada?

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    Kwests which go up to 65psi are pretty crappy, but the high pressure Kwests are nice!

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    The OEM Kenda Kwests were great tires...they were rated at 100psi and they lasted for over a year. The high pressure Comet Primos I have on now are not as durable - on my second pair in 6 months. Fact is, I don't have the time to order preferred tires and am at the mercy of my local bike shop stock availability when tires are needed. My next pair will be either the kevlar Comet Primos or I might try the Schwalbe Marathon Racer..or just go back to the Kenda Kwest. I welcome readers comments on tire options.

    The specs on the Japanese website, http://www.gobike.jp/ are no different than any other GoBike. Don't know the current retail price in Canada now, I bought my bike used from a Toronto dealer.

    Hey pm124, I get on the Greenway at 96th st. and head north to the end at Dyckman Street.....then head into Ft. Tryon Park up the hill to the Cloisters. I try to do the round trip in under an hour. That's my routine every weekend morning and weekdays when I can sneak in a ride or two. Othertimes you can find me at either the 108th Street handball courts in Riverside Park or the 96th St. courts in Central Park. My wife, daughter and I ride on the Greenway south to Battery Park on nice weekend afternoons. My wife will be on the GoBike and I on a blue Brompton. When I bike commute, I ride the Greenway to 26th St. Hope to catch you on the path.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoMan
    I will first gracefully bow to this esteemed community and thank all of you for your interest, curiosity, comments (good or bad) about our designs, products and state of well-being. I will particularly salute the visionary support of some of you who have graced us with your belief in what we do by becoming owners of GoBikes. I could start on a long story today to explain our silences (I promise to make the story available one day on our website...) but instead I just wanted to give you a heads-up and confirm that the GoBike is alive and well and evolving... As some of you have stated in this thread, we've had staff in Taiwan for most of the summer to control the quality of orders that have made their way to a new distributor for Greater China (Timac) and... a production that will (finally!) make its way to North-America. We've also completed all the design and production approval for ALL GoBike accessories. This first batch of 2007 models with a limited supply of accessories will arrive on time for pre-Christimas shipments. I will stop here since I don't want to take space on this news group to make commercial announcements. I will finish by apologizing to all of you who have tried to contact us, are waiting for replies and news and invite all of you to come to our website in October for all the news and info you've been waiting for. In the meantime, please understand that we will continue to keep a low profile for a while in order to get the job done and not deceive anyone... see you soon at www.gobikeworld.com
    It's good to hear that things may finally start start to improve in GoBikeland! Are you contemplating adding a Birdy style damper inside the front fork spring as hitting a bumpy surface sends my front suspension into a wild staccato spasm. Also needed is a way to stop sideways movement of the rear swingarm, the QR arrangement is not enough to stop the tail wagging.
    I have on several occasions had to fight to stay on when both the front & rear suspensions decided to do their own thing!
    I have been in touch with dealers in Belgium, Italy, Germany, Holland and Japan and all have been exasperated by the lack of info/support/accessories as have I.
    If this all sounds very negative it's because I have owned this bike for nearly 2 years now, I ride it a lot, I love the way it looks, but I have been very frustrated by the total lack of any after sales support for, what is after all, a reasonably expensive ride. And I am always nervous on any fast descent and have been very glad that my rear Hope hydraulic can slow me down when it goes into wobble mode.
    I hope the promised improvements do actually happen this time, I wait with baited breath...................
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    I recall that at one point, GoBike was planning on offering a touring version with the SRAM Dual Drive. Is that no longer the case?

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    Quote Originally Posted by invisiblehand
    I recall that at one point, GoBike was planning on offering a touring version with the SRAM Dual Drive. Is that no longer the case?
    I think that would be the DD24. (See first post in this thread)

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    Quote Originally Posted by delwong
    Hey pm124, I get on the Greenway at 96th st. and head north to the end at Dyckman Street.....then head into Ft. Tryon Park up the hill to the Cloisters. I try to do the round trip in under an hour. That's my routine every weekend morning and weekdays when I can sneak in a ride or two. Othertimes you can find me at either the 108th Street handball courts in Riverside Park or the 96th St. courts in Central Park. My wife, daughter and I ride on the Greenway south to Battery Park on nice weekend afternoons. My wife will be on the GoBike and I on a blue Brompton. When I bike commute, I ride the Greenway to 26th St. Hope to catch you on the path.
    Great! We ride up there on weekends, too. My daily is from 14th street to Columbia on 168th via the bike path. She's on a Downtube and I'm on a Dahon (for now). So, I'll say hello. By the way, do you know about the canal paths? Here are some links:
    http://www.a1trails.com/rail/ny/oldcroton.html
    http://www.transalt.org/info/ridesandwalks.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shilun
    I think that would be the DD24. (See first post in this thread)
    Whoops ... missed that. Sorry.

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