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Old 10-04-05, 10:07 PM
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older folders?

Recently taken a real liking to older folders that I started getting at flea markets and garage sales. I know very little about bikes but I got hooked on these old one and have kind of started collecting. Got 2 Italians marked HYDA BYKE that apear to have been made special for a local, Chicago area, now defunct bike shop, an old German and an early Dahon "HON California". I'm interested in info on how old these bikes may be and any info on finding serial numbers on them or other manufacturing markings and details; where, when, and how many like them were made. Most of all I'd like to find out who else out there has the 70-something folders. My interest is peaked in these older folders and I want to learn more.................Thanks!

PS Info on the HON (I don't think its 70's) would be appreciated too.
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Old 11-10-06, 08:36 AM
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hyda bike made for kts

Picked up one at the flea market. Cool little bike!
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Old 11-10-06, 09:19 AM
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I've got a Raleigh Twenty and a Crescent separable bike. What I like to do is take them and modernize the parts. I know that vintage lovers might cringe at this, but I use them regularly - something I wouldn't do if I had not updated them. Enjoy the bikes,
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I have a couple of the Raleigh folders from the late 60's. I have seen some of the other stuff, but don't have much information on any of them. The Raleigh ones are heavy, I think back then the folding was more for storage sake than transportation.

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Originally Posted by Don Lundquist
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PS Info on the HON (I don't think its 70's) would be appreciated too.
According to the company history on the Dahon site, the first Hon bike came out in 1982, although the company had been formed earlier.

The next part is from memory, and I may have the exact year wrong. Hon bikes became Dahon in 1986. A furniture company called Hon was complaining over the use of "their" name.

So, assuming that I have that year correct, your bike comes from between 1982 and 1986. You can try asking on the Dahon forum, too, although most of the discussion there is on the more recent models.

Oh, by the way, I have a Raleigh Twenty folder which I believe is from 1975, based on the year marking on the original AW3 rear hub. There have been a lot of threads on these. I agree with Juan162 that modernizing them gives you a much more useful bike than just restoring them, and it's fun. You still end up with something out of the ordinary. It may not be cost effective, though, if you just want a reliable folder.

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I heard of folding bikes as early as the mid 1970s. But I passed on them because-usually-the older the bike, the heavier it is. I did see a Flying Dutchman brand separting "folder" back then with 12 inch wheels which put me off them, too-I used skateboards for that type of riding. At around 36 pounds, those early folding bikes were hard to lift and a carry about, therefore not very practical for me for anything except car transport. When folding bikes dropped to around 28-30 pounds, with the telescoping stems and seatposts, plus rising crime and lack of secure storage/parking, then I chose to and can manage them in various situations-and Folder Fanatic was born.
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I have a Rog Pony that was made in the early 1970s. The only thing I have been able to find out about it is that it was made in the former Yugoslavia, now Slovinia. It has the common U shaped frame with a separate rack (vs. an intergal rack). I bought it to carry in my RV, and I wouldn't mind having a couple more for the rest of the family members. It weighs the same as the full sized bikes, it's just easier to transport.
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I hav a Moulton stowaway from 1963 and a BSA airborn bike that is made in the 2 worldwar for the paratroopers.
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