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    What can you tell me about this eBay cheapie?

    Hi all

    I could really do with a folder - at the moment, I cycle to the station whenever I catch a train anywhere, but with a folder, I could leave the car at home far more often, taking the bike on the train, and biking to wherever at the other end (I'm an account manager, travelling round the UK). So, I can't afford a Brompton or anything expensive, but I might stretch to one of these chaps from eBay. Do you know anything about them?

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...7025&rd=1&rd=1

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    This bike is probably not that different from a lot of the cheap 16" folding bikes, such as the Kent Magnesium folder; take a look at the thread on that. As long as you're not too tall for it (let's say, 6' maximum, preferably under 5' 9" or so), you may be comfortable enough riding it, but there is going to be a problem with the gearing. Take a look at the thread I started the other day, about gain ratios and 16" wheels. The upshot is that 16" wheels and a derailleur are a bad combination. Occasionally you may use one of the lower gears for a steep climb, but on the flats you'll be in the highest gear all the time, wishing for a higher one.

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    Quite apart from the bike itself, I'd check his feedback. thirteen negatives in the last three months.

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    Hmmm. I'm 6'3, and more of a masher than a spinner. Well, since I can't afford a big money bike, how would I get on with a Raleigh 20 folder? I know it'll be heavy, but would it fold down small enough for the train? And what about carrying panniers?

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    You'll probably be okay on a Raleigh Twenty. The gearing is well suited to mashing. You'll want a longer seatpost --the longest one you can get-- and even that might be a little short for you; but probably close enough.

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    I haven't taken a folded Twenty on the train; they don't fold up that small, but you can usually find a spot. The trains I ride, NJ Transit and LIRR, both have a rule that only a folded bicycle is allowed during peak hours, but any bike is allowed at non-peak hours. In other words, they don't care how well the bike folds up, as long as it's "folded."
    And I haven't tried panniers on a Twenty. The issue for you is going to be how far back can you get the panniers; if they're too close to the front of the rack, you'll be hitting them with your heels, especially if you have big feet. That's going to be an especially bad problem with the ebay cheapie you posted.
    You will probably be better off with a rack trunk, something that goes on top of the rack, rather than panniers. Raleigh Twenties, Shoppers, and RSW-16's had that kind of rack bag.

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    I had similar bike like that, but I experienced a failure in the steering tube after 8 months. It is true that the gearing is quite low. It got 48 chainring and 14-28 cogs (5 speed). It sold as different brand (Zoom), but I believe its exactly the same, I bought it 200 SGD in Singapore.

    Now I am using also 16" wheel, Hasa F2, no suspension, but has better quality, and at twice the price. Anyway, even with better quality Hasa I have to change the cogs (and rear hub) from 14-28 to 11-28 (7 speed) to have better gear ratio.

    If you can just wait a little while, just buy more decent bike.

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    Well, it looks like you paid 120 for your Hasa. I'm not going to have that to spend on a folder any time soon. I can pick up a Raleigh 20 for 20 or so here, if I watch carefully, so maybe that's my best route.

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