Advertise on Bikeforums.net



User Tag List

Results 1 to 11 of 11
  1. #1
    Brompton Randonneur
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Posts
    71
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Phil Wood 74mm Front Hub.

    Hi all,

    My Brompton has a standard front hub, and I'm interested in new, a better than standard, hub.

    I've got a quote from Phil Wood (one of the best, if not THE best) to specially produce a front hub that would fit the standard Brompton fork and rim.

    The hub would be 74mm OLD (Over-Locknut-Dimension, should fit the Moulton NS as well?) 28 holes (standard Brompton 349 rims), and sealed cartridge bearings.

    It comes with a lifetime warranty on hub shell and axle.

    This would be the last front hub you'd ever buy for their bike!

    The quote is 140 USD per hub, plus one 250 USD for the programming / setup.
    Meaning, each hub would cost:
    140 + (250 / NumberOfBuyers)

    For me, 390 USD (to be the lone buyer) is a bit expensive, but am willing to pay a lower price even with just a few other buyers.

    Do you know of anyone that would be interested as well?


    I'm not in it for the profit. I will pay the same price. I just want the best.
    You understand me, don't you?


    To be fair, I should say that the other option would be to get the SON XS dynamo hub, for a similar price (the whole set, with lights and fittings.)
    See here:
    http://www.biketrax.co.uk/products.p...d=m6b0s157p851
    That's 410 USD, and it's not even an E6 lamp. Not to mention SolidLights...


    I also posted this in The Folding Society blog, with a pic I got from Phil Wood of a similar 74mm hub with non standard 24 holes, to get an idea how it would look.
    http://foldsoc.blogspot.com/2007/02/...-brompton.html

    Regards, Tal Katzir.

  2. #2
    Part-time epistemologist invisiblehand's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Washington, DC
    My Bikes
    Jamis Nova, Bike Friday NWT, STRIDA, Austro Daimler Vent Noir, Haluzak Horizon, Salsa La Raza, Hollands Tourer, Bike Friday tikit
    Posts
    5,174
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by tkatzir
    Hi all,

    My Brompton has a standard front hub, and I'm interested in new, a better than standard, hub.

    I've got a quote from Phil Wood (one of the best, if not THE best) to specially produce a front hub that would fit the standard Brompton fork and rim.

    The hub would be 74mm OLD (Over-Locknut-Dimension, should fit the Moulton NS as well?) 28 holes (standard Brompton 349 rims), and sealed cartridge bearings.

    It comes with a lifetime warranty on hub shell and axle.

    This would be the last front hub you'd ever buy for their bike!

    The quote is 140 USD per hub, plus one 250 USD for the programming / setup.
    Meaning, each hub would cost:
    140 + (250 / NumberOfBuyers)

    For me, 390 USD (to be the lone buyer) is a bit expensive, but am willing to pay a lower price even with just a few other buyers.

    Do you know of anyone that would be interested as well?


    I'm not in it for the profit. I will pay the same price. I just want the best.
    You understand me, don't you?


    To be fair, I should say that the other option would be to get the SON XS dynamo hub, for a similar price (the whole set, with lights and fittings.)
    See here:
    http://www.biketrax.co.uk/products.p...d=m6b0s157p851
    That's 410 USD, and it's not even an E6 lamp. Not to mention SolidLights...


    I also posted this in The Folding Society blog, with a pic I got from Phil Wood of a similar 74mm hub with non standard 24 holes, to get an idea how it would look.
    http://foldsoc.blogspot.com/2007/02/...-brompton.html

    Regards, Tal Katzir.

    Did you post this on the YAHOO group BromptonTalk?

  3. #3
    Brompton Randonneur
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Posts
    71
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by invisiblehand
    Did you post this on the YAHOO group BromptonTalk?
    Yes, as well as the Yahoo group moultonbicycle, maybe someone there would be interested.

    Tal.

  4. #4
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Melbourne, Australia
    My Bikes
    Brompton T6, Ganna Italian Gentleman's Bike
    Posts
    81
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I have found some pictures online of this front hub, obviously someone got it made.

    Looking at the Phil website they say "We can be contacted for replacement hubs for Brompton wheels". I have e-mailed them to find out more, will post the result here.
    Last edited by Lewis Butler; 07-08-09 at 01:32 AM.

  5. #5
    Senior Member brommie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    My Bikes
    Brompton T6, Koga Miyata Distance, Airnimal Joey
    Posts
    155
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Could be interesting and sure nice to see, these hubs.
    The Son is also a serious option, just like http://www.flickr.com/photos/plooifiets/3671516172/

    Jos
    "A trip on my Brommie, -or is it the Airnimal Joey?- makes me smile. . ."

    http://airnimaljoey.blogspot.com/ (English)
    http://plooifiets.blogspot.com/ (Dutch)
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/plooifiets/

  6. #6
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Melbourne, Australia
    My Bikes
    Brompton T6, Ganna Italian Gentleman's Bike
    Posts
    81
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    The word from Phil is:

    "We do make a 74mm OLD hub for the Brompton. We offer it in a spoke hole count from 16 to 32. The cost for the 16h is US$159, the 24h and 28h are US$119, and the 32h is US$99."

    That 32 hole seems cheap to me (for a Phil hub) maybe they realised that very few people need 32 spoke 16" wheels and have made a whole bunch....

    To be quite honest, I think that Brompton have stolen some of Phil's thunder here, by offering a sealed bearing front hub in their 2009 product range.

    I'm very keen on the idea of the SON as the 'ultimate' front hub, although I don't think one can be had for US$99.

  7. #7
    AEO
    AEO is offline
    Senior Member AEO's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    A Coffin Called Earth. or Toronto, ON
    My Bikes
    Bianchi, Miyata, Dahon, Rossin
    Posts
    12,245
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    out of curiosity, what rim would you lace the 16h and 24h to? for 406mm there's CR-18 which comes in 28h, 32h and 36h. so something from velocity?

    you can even lace the 32h to a 32h rim using only 16 holes and still get a pretty sturdy wheel using 1x or radial.
    Food for thought: if you aren't dead by 2050, you and your entire family will be within a few years from starvation. Now that is a cruel gift to leave for your offspring. ;)
    http://sanfrancisco.ibtimes.com/arti...ger-photos.htm

  8. #8
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Melbourne, Australia
    My Bikes
    Brompton T6, Ganna Italian Gentleman's Bike
    Posts
    81
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by AEO View Post
    out of curiosity, what rim would you lace the 16h and 24h to? for 406mm there's CR-18 which comes in 28h, 32h and 36h. so something from velocity?
    I understand that if you ask Velocity nicely they will drill any number of holes you want, you might need to buy a large quantity though. You can also get undrilled rims from them...

  9. #9
    A little North of Hell
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Posts
    4,354
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    phil wood

    looks like they might use the wheelchair hub, with different spacers?

    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    XXXI

  10. #10
    Insane Bicycle Mechanic Jeff Wills's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    other Vancouver
    Posts
    6,742
    Mentioned
    15 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by AEO View Post
    out of curiosity, what rim would you lace the 16h and 24h to? for 406mm there's CR-18 which comes in 28h, 32h and 36h. so something from velocity?

    you can even lace the 32h to a 32h rim using only 16 holes and still get a pretty sturdy wheel using 1x or radial.
    I got 24-hole rims from Bike Friday. The 406 is an Alex DM-18, the 451 is an Alex DA-22. I'm planning on lacing a 32-hole Sun M14A rim to a 16-hole hub, just because.
    Jeff Wills

    All my bikes.

  11. #11
    AEO
    AEO is offline
    Senior Member AEO's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    A Coffin Called Earth. or Toronto, ON
    My Bikes
    Bianchi, Miyata, Dahon, Rossin
    Posts
    12,245
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    doesn't the M14A have staggered drilling?
    Food for thought: if you aren't dead by 2050, you and your entire family will be within a few years from starvation. Now that is a cruel gift to leave for your offspring. ;)
    http://sanfrancisco.ibtimes.com/arti...ger-photos.htm

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •