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Old 02-12-07, 04:50 AM   #1
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Swift folder?

Been looking at the Aluminum folder but wish for a steel one to support my weight 260. I emailed info@swiftfolder.com and hope to get a response. Don't like Aluminum for frames and wish to configure my own bike more or less. I have certain requirements and want sort of a retro old school look. Higher drop bars, bar ends, Brooks saddle, etc. etc. Anyone done this or purchased a steel swift frame only? Wondering about the cost.
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There is already a Swift thread here:
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But in brief - all the things you want to do are reasonable and have already been done. See above thread. The cost will depend on what level of components you want, if you buy new or used etc etc..
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Been looking at the Aluminum folder but wish for a steel one to support my weight 260. I emailed info@swiftfolder.com and hope to get a response. Don't like Aluminum for frames and wish to configure my own bike more or less. I have certain requirements and want sort of a retro old school look. Higher drop bars, bar ends, Brooks saddle, etc. etc. Anyone done this or purchased a steel swift frame only? Wondering about the cost.
Peter Reich quotes $920 for his steel version, complete bike, 8-speed Nexus.

You can also check Human Powered Machines in Oregon, which also sells the steel-framed Swift folders.
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Old 02-12-07, 09:22 PM   #4
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920? ouch! I shudda bought one when they were 700! I didn't know they still made the steel frames?
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Don't choke on the price, it is a great bike for the money. It might be cheaper without the Nexus.

As for going very custom, Peter could do that. I can say that I am big guy and I've never had any issue with my aluminum frame even when loaded. I don't mind the weight savings over the steel either.
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Is Peter providing the swift folder in steel again? I thought only human powered machines was still doing them in steel. I'm about to order a steel one myself.
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$800, steel, singlespeed from Human Powered Machines. Took delivery this month.
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I'm just about to place an order for a steel swift from human powered machines. The steel swift is listed at 28 pounds spec'd out the way on the list below. I plan on adding either a shimano 7 speed or 8 speed redline hub. I hear that the redline 8 speed hub is heavier than the 7 speed. At twenty eight pounds will this add more weight? I'm not a weight weenie considering I weigh 230 and I am 6'2". I thought that these bikes could get down to around 21-23 pounds. Is that set up as a fixed gear with high-end, light-weight components?

Hey Bop? What color did you get it powder-coated in?
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oops... here is the spec list from the Human Powered Machines catalog:

TYPE: Folding bicycle.
WHEELBASE: 41”
BB HEIGHT: 11”
STAND OVER HEIGHT: 25”
WEIGHT: 28 lbs.
FRAME: TIG welded CroMo tubing.
FORK: CroMo Unicrown.
FOLDED DIMENSIONS: 10” X 21.5” X 30”.
WHEELS: Rims- alloy 20” 406mm; spokes- stainless steel.
DRIVETRAIN: Single speed, SRAM Torpedo
7-Speed internal hub or SRAM dual Drive 3X9 27-speed hub.
BRAKES: V-brakes or disk brakes ($140. extra).
OPTIONS: Standard drive train, fenders, racks, bag, suitcase.
PRICE: $850
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Old 02-13-07, 08:17 PM   #10
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is this the anticipated re-designed version of the swift?
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I like it in basic black. Just returned from a weekend trip to San Francisco. First chance to ride the Swift as the weather in SE Alaska has been abysmal.

HPM did a great job, The bike was ready to roll without any adjustments. I am running a 56/16 singlespeed with Primo Comets and some LP ergo bar ends to help on the hills. I had a blast.
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No, this is the original steel Swift design, made by Human Powered Machines. I have to say that I really like the fact that if you buy a steel Swift folder from HPM, your getting a hand-built-to-order bike made by one of their builders. Jan is the guy who developed the swift with Peter. He only sells the steel frames and they are each hand cut and welded in the shop in Oregon. Personally I would rather have a steal ride than aluminum, and knowing that it is hand-built in the U.S. makes me feel good. It's pretty cool talking on the phone and ordering your bike from the guys who are building your bike, let alone the guy who partially designed it.
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Old 02-15-07, 08:32 PM   #13
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cool, thanks.

(must . . . hold . . . out . . . for . . . redesigned . . . swift)
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Do you know much about the new redesigned swift? Lower top tube? or bottom bracket? I know it is supposed to have a smaller fold. Do you guys think the ride is going to be any different?

Does anyone think that the ride quality is going to stay the same, improve, or not be as stiff?
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Wonder about that new design, the original Swift is pretty good looking as it is.
Also wonder if they would do a titanium version, custom. If so I am playing Lotto tomorow...
Does anyone make a fold 'em bike out of titanium?
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One guy made a Ti Brompton. I think it was about $5k or so. It was FULL Ti not just the forks and rear triangle like Brompton offers.
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One guy made a Ti Brompton. I think it was about $5k or so. It was FULL Ti not just the forks and rear triangle like Brompton offers.
Do you have any info? I know about the Al/Ti SP Merc/Brompton chimera - but not a full Ti Brommie.
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Do you have any info? I know about the Al/Ti SP Merc/Brompton chimera - but not a full Ti Brommie.
Are you talking about the Ultimate Folding Bike? The titanium Brompton with a triple front derailer and 9-speed cassette in the back?

Try www.ufbusa.com ...
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Wonder about that new design, the original Swift is pretty good looking as it is.
Also wonder if they would do a titanium version, custom. If so I am playing Lotto tomorow...
Does anyone make a fold 'em bike out of titanium?
I thought Peter made a titanium swift folder for someone in the past. It was referenced in an article as a $4000-5000 Swift folder.
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Are you talking about the Ultimate Folding Bike? The titanium Brompton with a triple front derailer and 9-speed cassette in the back?

Try www.ufbusa.com ...
I'm having probs with the link - but is it the Leonard B. Rubin prototype? That would make sense. I remember him contributing heavily to the old belgacom threads about his dream machine...
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I'm having probs with the link - but is it the Leonard B. Rubin prototype? That would make sense. I remember him contributing heavily to the old belgacom threads about his dream machine...
I could not remember the gentleman's name earlier ... but yes that is him.
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