Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

Folding Bikes Discuss the unique features and issues of folding bikes. Also a great place to learn what folding bike will work best for your needs.

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 04-12-07, 07:34 PM   #1
TranDz
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Bikes:
Posts: 69
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Folding Bikes

Hey guys. I am still in a search of a bike to get as I don't want to get something then not like it. I recently was looking at some folding bikes. What are your opinions on them, etc. I am thinking about getting this one.

http://www.dahon.com/us/ciaop8.htm
TranDz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-07, 12:00 AM   #2
gbcb
J3L 2404
 
gbcb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Shanghai
Bikes: 2007 Jamis Nova
Posts: 1,075
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Hey, TranDz. Check out the folding bike forum for more information. I have a Dahon and I love it.
gbcb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-07, 12:27 AM   #3
Juha
Formerly Known as Newbie
 
Juha's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Helsinki, Finland
Bikes:
Posts: 6,263
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Moving this to Folding Bikes -forum.

--J, a Forum Mod
__________________
To err is human. To moo is bovine.

Who is this General Failure anyway, and why is he reading my drive?


Become a Registered Member in Bike Forums
Community guidelines
Juha is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-07, 01:31 AM   #4
gbcb
J3L 2404
 
gbcb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Shanghai
Bikes: 2007 Jamis Nova
Posts: 1,075
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Well, that's one way to get to the folders forum
gbcb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-07, 07:46 AM   #5
SesameCrunch
Eschew Obfuscation
 
SesameCrunch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
Bikes: 2005 Fuji Professional, 2002 Lemond Zurich, Folders - Strida, Merc, Dahon, Downtube, Recumbent folder
Posts: 3,850
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Better yet, do a search on this forum first. There have been tons of questions like yours recently. Lots of good info there.
SesameCrunch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-07, 08:44 AM   #6
geo8rge
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Bikes:
Posts: 2,013
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
"What are your opinions on them"

Folding bikes are not as good mechanically as the best full size bikes, which is why they are not used in competition. The smaller wheels make for a rougher ride, and fall more easily into holes. They are often less stable.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folding_bike

That said, my guess is you will get a lot more use from a folding bike due to its superior practicality.
__________________
2000 Montague CX, I do not recommend it, but still ride it.
Strida 3, I recommend it for rides < 10mi wo steep hills.
2006 Rowbike 720 Sport, I recommend it as an exercise bike.
1996 Birdy, Recommend.
Wieleder CARiBIKE (folding), decent frame.
geo8rge is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-07, 12:50 PM   #7
TranDz
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Bikes:
Posts: 69
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Thanks. Didn't see a folding bike forum sorry as I book marked the commuting forums and never ventured out haha.

I want to use the bike mainly to go to and from school, and around town during the summer or w.e
TranDz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-07, 01:22 PM   #8
folder fanatic
Banned.
 
folder fanatic's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Anti Social Media-Land
Bikes:
Posts: 3,078
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
geo8rge is correct about the folding bike's superior practicality. These bikes are sometimes the only option available to any cyclist since regular larger wheeled bikes may not be stored inside some places. These bikes are the only ones I use now. Dahon is an excellent brand to start out with to learn about and see if the folder is the bike for you.
folder fanatic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-07, 01:33 PM   #9
old and new
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Bikes:
Posts: 3,134
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
You just can't go wrong with the Dahon. You've made the first and most important step by gettin' over that fact that they appear odd and dinky,I guess you rode one and know better now,it will get better yet. I have a Helious. I chose it because it was light,not so much for light on the road but seemed easier for the wife to heft when she'd want to use it.I use it more than she though. They're so adjustable,so much NOT an inferior ride. Yours is one of the high-end models,that's good go for it. The cheap ones are fine,I test rode a cheaper one at first before ordering mine. LBS's had none and seemed uninterested in offering to order it.
old and new is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-07, 02:06 PM   #10
invisiblehand
Part-time epistemologist
 
invisiblehand's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Washington, DC
Bikes: Jamis Nova, Bike Friday NWT, STRIDA, Austro Daimler Vent Noir, Haluzak Horizon, Salsa La Raza, Hollands Tourer, Bike Friday tikit
Posts: 5,524
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by TranDz
Thanks. Didn't see a folding bike forum sorry as I book marked the commuting forums and never ventured out haha.

I want to use the bike mainly to go to and from school, and around town during the summer or w.e
Look at some of the recent threads ... if you have a certain set of parameters and needs, that would be helpful.
invisiblehand is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-07, 02:18 PM   #11
Bacciagalupe
Professional Fuss-Budget
 
Bacciagalupe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Bikes:
Posts: 6,438
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by old and new
You just can't go wrong with the Dahon.
I beg to differ. There are plenty of ways to go wrong with a Dahon.

Ciao P8 has a fixed handlebar height, so no adjustment there.
Ciao P8 weighs 32 (!!) lbs, largely irrelevant for performance but would be horrible to carry around
Wheel quality on Dahons are substandard / bad quality control

The only pluses I can see for the Ciao over some other models is the low step and the internal hub, which is a good choice for commuting (presumably the OP's purpose)

If you're going to spend over $700, I'd highly recommend you get a Swift, which is very light (22 lbs), fully upgradeable, fast fold, designed for urban use.

If you want to spend less, look into Downtubes. They don't look as good as the Dahons and I have a few doubts about component quality, but afaik they're much easier to fix and upgrade than the low-end Dahons.


Quote:
Originally Posted by geo8rge
Folding bikes are not as good mechanically as the best full size bikes, which is why they are not used in competition....
Well....

Folding bikes aren't used in most competitions (e.g. USAC, UCI) because the regulations are very strict about numerous aspects of a bike -- wheel size, weight, design, saddle height, handlebar height and so forth.

And if I am not mistaken, you can use 20" wheels in some Tri and long distance events (e.g. RAAM), so some people use Bike Fridays / Air Fridays.

That said, I would agree that sometimes there is a price premium to get the same mechanical quality on a folding bike as most road bikes.
Bacciagalupe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-07, 02:20 PM   #12
pm124
Car free since 1995
 
pm124's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: NYC
Bikes: Birdy Yellow, Birdy Monocoque
Posts: 1,018
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I disagree with Geo8rge. Folding bikes aren't used in competition because they are not allowed in competition. If cycling associations allowed recumbants and odd shaped bikes, races would be much faster.

Some folders are at least as fast as road bikes, and at least one upright speed record was set on one.

In fact, road bikes are one of the less efficient bike designs out there, but they are the standard, and cycling associations don't permit anything that weighs too little or looks too weird to ensure that it's all about the rider and not about the bike.
pm124 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-07, 02:26 PM   #13
makeinu
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Bikes:
Posts: 2,294
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by pm124
I disagree with Geo8rge. Folding bikes aren't used in competition because they are not allowed in competition. If cycling associations allowed recumbants and odd shaped bikes, races would be much faster.

Some folders are at least as fast as road bikes, and at least one upright speed record was set on one.

In fact, road bikes are one of the less efficient bike designs out there, but they are the standard, and cycling associations don't permit anything that weighs too little or looks too weird to ensure that it's all about the rider and not about the bike.
A shame really because it would make the sport much more interesting.
makeinu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-07, 07:23 PM   #14
TranDz
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Bikes:
Posts: 69
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I got another question.. Will a folding bike be reliable as a normal road bike. Especially in the snowand rain etc
TranDz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-07, 08:08 AM   #15
pm124
Car free since 1995
 
pm124's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: NYC
Bikes: Birdy Yellow, Birdy Monocoque
Posts: 1,018
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by TranDz
I got another question.. Will a folding bike be reliable as a normal road bike. Especially in the snowand rain etc
As with any bike, it depends on what you get. If you get a fully sealed bike, you'll be fine. Some are even better than average. Dahon makes a Mariner that is designed to live in a saline environment.
pm124 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-07, 08:14 AM   #16
pm124
Car free since 1995
 
pm124's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: NYC
Bikes: Birdy Yellow, Birdy Monocoque
Posts: 1,018
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Also, that leaves the Downtube out unless you replace all the moving parts and steel bits. The only reason I use mine as a rain bike is that I'm trying to motivate myself to rebuild the hubs. I've already replaced everything else on the bike with sealed components.
pm124 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-07, 01:43 PM   #17
TranDz
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Bikes:
Posts: 69
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
What about the Ciao P8? How would that do in snow and rain?
TranDz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-07, 02:56 PM   #18
pm124
Car free since 1995
 
pm124's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: NYC
Bikes: Birdy Yellow, Birdy Monocoque
Posts: 1,018
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I just took a look at the specs. It would hold up better than most bikes, I'd think. Not only does it have extensive rust protection, but the chain is enclosed. Everything is sealed. That and a $10 rain suit, and you'll be set to go.

If you can get your hands on a 2006 Mu XL and don't need the step through frame, you will probably have a better ride and lighter bike with the Thudbuster seat post.
pm124 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:24 AM.