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Old 04-20-07, 12:41 PM   #1
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The simple joy of small wheels.

This is just another iteration of one of the most common boasts on bicycle discussion groups. "I was riding my A, and passed a wannabe on a B", where B is a bike that you'd expect to be faster or just better. Yes, it's kind of petty, but there's a simple joy in showing people up.

Also, I'm not sure I really buy the "small wheels climb better" hype. Some people just haven't learned to climb too well.

So anyway, there I was, at the bottom of a hill, starting up. I was riding my BF Pocket Tourist, a middle gear, 20 x 1.75 Tioga Comp Pool tires, semi upright riding position with BF H bars. A roadie passed me just as I started up. Young guy, or at least younger than me. Thinner too. I said hello as he passed. No reaction, staring straight ahead. Oh well, no problem. He's concentrating on his workout. I always say hello to other cyclists. I'd guess about half of them respond.

It's not that difficult a hill. Maybe half a mile to the top. I can't estimate percent of grade just by looking, but I know that I don't need my lower gears for this one. I remained seated, and just kept going. He started struggling almost at once, standing on the pedals. I passed him about half way up. He just laughed and shook his head. I was pretty far ahead of him at the top, but he passed me not long after the road leveled out. So maybe I was the one who was shown up in the end.

So what do you think? Small wheels climb better or lousy climbing technique?
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Old 04-20-07, 12:50 PM   #2
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I'll have to go with:
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lousy climbing technique
or he had already been out for 83 miles and was just exhausted.
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It's not a race unless both parties know it's a race. And no, "The Look" does not count, unless you want to get laughed off these boards R600 Dura-Ace style.

Anyway.... He may well have higher gearing than you do, or just want to mash. I wouldn't dwell on it. As in, at all.

The real question is, can the same person, at the same level of fitness, in the same gear, go up a hill faster or slower if they're on a 20" wheeled bike?
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The real question is, can the same person, at the same level of fitness, in the same gear, go up a hill faster or slower if they're on a 20" wheeled bike?
...which weighs the same as the 700C bike. That's the hard part.
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Old 04-20-07, 05:19 PM   #5
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It's not a race unless both parties know it's a race.
Huh??

It's ALWAYS a race if 2 cyclists are heading the same way. DaFriMon beat the tar out of an opponent fair & square. Bikes don't count, only the engine. Fitness dominates on the slopes. Bike weight is not a big factor at all.
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It's ALWAYS a race if 2 cyclists are heading the same way. DaFriMon beat the tar out of an opponent fair & square. Bikes don't count, only the engine. Fitness dominates on the slopes. Bike weight is not a big factor at all.
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Huh?? It's ALWAYS a race if 2 cyclists are heading the same way. DaFriMon beat the tar out of an opponent fair & square. Bikes don't count, only the engine. Fitness dominates on the slopes. Bike weight is not a big factor at all.
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Rode an amazing over 13 miles for first time on my D7 this morning and got passed only once but the guy was struggling to pass me on his Cannondale MTB. 20" wheels can go of course but you have to be a cycling nut and in great physical condition (thanks to my Trek 700) to achieve 20MPH according to my GPS. I wasn't there to race just to enjoy the nice day to ride. The area where I ride is all flat and therefore can't make comparisson on uphill ride with the 20".

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I like surprising riders of cumbersomes on 16/1.75 inch tire fixie.
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Yesterday I overtook a Bumblebee on the flat, but the little blighter soon caught me on the next hill and dropped me like stone...

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Yesterday I overtook a Bumblebee on the flat, but the little blighter soon caught me on the next hill and dropped me like stone...
Is this English slang? If so please explain it .Or do You mean the insect?If it was an insect he probably said he dropped you like a bad bit of pollen!At least that would be the buzz around the hive.
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The insect! Although "Bumblebees" was slang for amphetamines in the 70s...

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lycra clad poser.

I thought it might refer to a lycra clad wanna be.With full team kit of course.
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I thought it might refer to a lycra clad wanna be.
Unfortunately, that's sounds like me.

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With full team kit of course.
When I get my black and yellow stripey kit and put on a few pounds, I will be a true "bumblebee". Perhaps we have coined a new term!

Apologies for the pointless threadjack...

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