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View Poll Results: Who will recieve their NWT first?
TheMadBrewer 4 36.36%
Unkchunk 1 9.09%
A Tie! (within the same hour in terms of GMT) 1 9.09%
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Old 05-09-07, 08:36 PM   #1
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Who will recieve their NWT first: TheMadBrewer or Unkunk

The contest: Who will recieve their NWT first. The estimated shipping dates are very close. TheMadBrewer in the Los Angeles, California area has the distance advantage of 733 miles to the Bike friday manufacturing facility in Eugene, Oregon. While the Cincinnati Metropolitan Statistical Area is 2,179 miles away. I think the travel suitcase option will more than make up the time by being much easier for the shippers to handle. Anyways... the race is on.
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Old 05-09-07, 08:45 PM   #2
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The contest: Who will recieve their NWT first. The estimated shipping dates are very close. TheMadBrewer in the Los Angeles, California area has the distance advantage of 733 miles to the Bike friday manufacturing facility in Eugene, Oregon. While the Cincinnati Metropolitan Statistical Area is 2,179 miles away. I think the travel suitcase option will more than make up the time by being much easier for the shippers to handle. Anyways... the race is on.
The suitcase, while protecting the bike, will make unkchunk's bike too heavy to make the last truck to Cincinnati. Sorry.

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Mine is coming with a suitcase, too -- so that part is equal. I haven't received an email with a tracking number yet either. So you pays your money and you takes your chances.
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Who cares when you receive your bikes; the point is to ride 'em.

So the first person to reach Kansas, with their suitcase trailer in tow, wins.
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Old 05-10-07, 02:29 AM   #5
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On the basis of my Scrabble/Username theory, TheMadBrewer (23points) will receive his bike at least 2 days before unkchunk (21 points).
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Old 05-10-07, 03:52 AM   #6
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My choice is not in the poll options...

I think the packages are going to fall off a truck and disappear. So, neither.
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Old 05-10-07, 06:57 AM   #7
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The suitcase, while protecting the bike, will make unkchunk's bike too heavy to make the last truck to Cincinnati. Sorry.
Ha, looks like it made the last truck to Portland.

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Mine is coming with a suitcase, too -- so that part is equal.
Dang.

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Who cares when you receive your bikes; the point is to ride 'em.
That needs to be seriously rethought. Even if we assume your first premise was correct, how could anyone ride a bicycle which they had not yet recieved? I recommend taking the comment back to the shop and reworking it.

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On the basis of my Scrabble/Username theory, TheMadBrewer (23points) will receive his bike at least 2 days before unkchunk (21 points).
You know I had a bad feeling when BF wouldn't let me register as "unzchunz". Now I know why.

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I think the packages are going to fall off a truck and disappear.
Ha, looks like it made the last truck to Portla... Sorry, I just had a strangest feeling of dejavu.

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Old 05-10-07, 07:06 AM   #8
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From the UPS tracking page:

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Your package is on time with a scheduled delivery date of 05/16/2007.

EUGENE, OR, US - 05/09/2007 - 3:44 P.M. - PICKUP SCAN
EUGENE, OR, US - 05/09/2007 - 6:58 P.M. - ORIGIN SCAN
EUGENE, OR, US - 05/09/2007 - 9:44 P.M. - DEPARTURE SCAN
Looks like I'm in the lead. So where's your Scrabble/Username theory now Fear&Trembling? Hey, how many points does an ampersand get?
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Old 05-10-07, 07:45 AM   #9
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Looks like I'm in the lead. So where's your Scrabble/Username theory now Fear&Trembling? Hey, how many points does an ampersand get?
Well, going by the thread title I would be more concerned about a strange character called "Unkunk" getting the bike before you...

How about a poll to see whose bike sustains the most damage in transit. I am gonna go with you on this one, Unkchunk as it sounds like UPS are rushing the delivery; it's also a longer route to Ohio - so a greater risk of spoke mutilation (or worse); what's more, I am having no problem imagining a clumsy brute of a UPS guy throwing your beloved case round as I type.

Zero points for the ampersand. This is a shame as my username ties on 21 points with yours...!

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That needs to be seriously rethought. Even if we assume your first premise was correct, how could anyone ride a bicycle which they had not yet recieved? I recommend taking the comment back to the shop and reworking it.
Adjust your interpretive schema: my "first premise" does not assume you won't get your bike; it assumes that getting your bike does not take precedence over riding it once you've received it.

In any case, you still have 6 days. From OR to CA is 2 days. TMB still has time and great weather on his side.

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Old 05-10-07, 05:35 PM   #11
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Adjust your interpretive schema: my "first premise" does not assume you won't get your bike...
That's true, but it carries the assumption that I don't care about recieving my bike, which I assure you is wrong. I can't speak for TheMad Breewer, but I think jignall is happy that we are no longer hijacking his European touring thread.

Anyways, the latest tracking info is:

PORTLAND, OR, US - 05/10/2007 - 1:02 A.M. - ARRIVAL SCAN
PORTLAND, OR, US - 05/10/2007 - 6:40 A.M. - DEPARTURE SCAN

Looks like a 1st leg transit time of 3 hours and 18 minutes for 110 miles distance giving an average speed of... 33 1/3 mph. Notice the skillfull use of the I-5 corridor at late night hours to avoid the traffic snarls around Salem. After an nice 5 and a half hour rest we're back on the road. Mostly likely on the I-84 East toward Salt Lake. This route provides splended views of the Columbia River Valley as well as provides an alternative to those long winding mountains roads. This section of road was repaved in 1997 a double asphalt substrate so we can be assured that damage to persons or cargo is very unlikely. Another possible route is the I-90 to Billings, but either eay we are well past The Dalles by now. Lastest weather shows scattered thunder showers breaking up to the northeast of Walla Walla, so looks like we can expect smooth sailing... err, anyone know the trucker talk equivalent for "smooth sailing"?
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I've still yet to get an email with a tracking number, so Unkunk has a good two day lead

If mine doesn't get out tomorrow, I'll have no chance at all (unless the Mississippi floods)
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Any tornados out that end of the US? I thought I saw a news item with trucks flying through the air, bike-shaped parcels scattering...
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Not looking good for me -- just called BF and it didn't ship today ("still in cabling") -- should go out Monday. If all breaks my way I could still win, but I'd put my money on Unkunk.
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Well, I just want to start off by saying that just because the UPS tracking page hasn't shown an update in the last 24 hours doesn't necessarily mean that anything has gone wrong. There could be several routine explanations. Uhmmm... like the destination was Denver instead of Salt Lake.

Well MadBrewer, since yours hasn't shipped out that means I still retain the yellow joisey! And if the the destination is infact Denver, I think I get the polka dotted hill climbing shirt as well. Anyways don't feel bad. There's the old saying "Never buy a car built on Friday." And since it is a Friday, that would make it on Friday to the 2nd power. Much better to have a Friday on Monday than any old day of the week. Sorry, I lost control of what I was writing.

I still think you've got a chance though. That is if the tracking shows that mine hasn't reached St Louis by tomorrow. Your's has a straight shot down I-5. The only real obsticles you have are the Med Fly Agricultural Inspection station around Weed and the Harris Ranch vapors near Coalinga. You know, I think I'm detecting a tinge of jelousy by those of the Dahon persuation here. I'll just be big about it and forgive them. They got enough problems as it is.
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Any tornados out that end of the US? I thought I saw a news item with trucks flying through the air, bike-shaped parcels scattering...
As long as they aren't reporting any flying Pullman type suitcases I'll be fine. Anyways, it wouldn't matter if they did. Those hard shell Samsonite suitcases can take alot of punishment. They test them by putting them in a cage with an angry 500 lbs. gorrrilla. I don't know how much a tornado weighs, but it can't be very much. They're made up of mostly air. Can't be more than a few ounces at most.
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There's the old saying "Never buy a car built on Friday."
IIRC, statistically, cars built on Monday or Friday have a higher chance of manufacturing error. And Monday actually being slightly worse than Friday, I think.

However, this can't be assumed for Bike Fridays, since probably all the employees there are happy and enthusiastic about working on the bikes, no matter what day of the work week.
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Old 05-12-07, 02:22 PM   #18
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Okay, I just want to start off today's installment by stating that just because the UPS tracking site hasn't updated my shipment information in the last 48 hours doesn't necessarily mean that anything has gone awry. There are still many possible explanations left to explain this, although fewer than at the 24 hour interval. Weather in the west is clear, with the exception of scattered thunderstorm activity in the western Colorado area. Winds are from the north at 6 mph and the visiblity is at 10.0 miles. That's plenty enough for your average trucker, especially when you consider the long views they have out west.
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Actually, I've found with UPS Ground shipments that the status isn't updated once its on a truck. So if is on a truck from (say) Portland to Chicago you won't see any updates until the truck reaches Chicago. I once had something from Denver sent by mistake (a UPS mistake) to Boston instead of LA. It looked like the package fell off the face of the earth until about a week later I got "Arrival Scan" from Boston. UPS refused to do anything about it -- send it ground to LA which took another 10 days. That I was always ask if there is an alternative shipping option.
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It's not going to work MadBrewer. You're just trying to trick me. That sort of thing might work on a One Who Must Be Obeyed, but not me. Yeah, you're thinking I'll be multiplying 48 hours by 33 1/3 mph to estimate the maximum possible distance and then take a compass and trace a circle with the the last known position as a focal point. Well there's a very simple explantion for all this. It's well known that they are heading into hostile Indian terrority about now. It's just misdirection and stealth to throw the Comanches of the track. It's a proven UPS technique. It works with the Shoshone, Blackfoot, Kickapoo, and Winnebago. Everyone knows just two or three Winnebago can bring all traffic to a stop.
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Okay, I just want to state with the utmost of clairity and uhm confidence that ahhh just because the UPS tracking site has not updated my shipment information in which is now the last 72 hours that nothing is amiss in anyway what so ever. I repeat, nothing is amiss in anyway what so ever. So you all can stop gloating. There.
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OK, Monday 5:30pm (PT) and no email from BF and no response to my phone call. So I guess mine didn't ship today either.
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Classic! Five stars for the Winnebago reference!
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Sorry Mad&DissapointedBrewer. They shipped my bike out late in the day, about 8:00 in the pm. My local UPS guy said this time of year is the busiest time of the year for them, and not Christmas as most people think. So give your email another check.

I just want start out by saying although it's been 96 hours, the UPS tracking site has finally been updated and it's in... Chicago? Yeah, why not. So the second leg, all 1,756 miles of it, came in with an average 24.4 mph. Okay, it's slower than the 33 1/3 in the first leg, but considering the long distance it's understandable to have a sustainable pace.

After a rest up tonight, it's off to a 250 third leg. This course will mostly be across open Indiana corn fields, so should have a faster pace. An important side note, this is the home area of America's most influential cyclist, none other than great Dave Stoller. Perhaps I would be so lucky that he'll draft the truck himself. Lots of good vibes there. Weather forcasts 80 percent chance of thunderstorms, Winds WSW at 10 to 20 mph and a high of 75F.
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Classic! Five stars for the Winnebago reference!
Thank you noahj. This is just the type of reaction I was hoping for. For years now people have been saying "It's better to give than recieve." Why is that? It's because folks have been pretty lax at recieving. It's been just "Thanks", "Thank you" or "Awe gee gosh fellas, you shouldn't have". Well no more. It's time for a change. That's why I started this race. To inspire a new generation to excell and bring recieving to it's highest potential... to explore new boundaries and horizons of getting things... and one day we just might see extreme recieving. I guy can dream can't he?
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