[Edit: I meant 8H.] Like someone else said elsewhere, apparently my expectations for the DT were too high. I'm looking for experienced rider input to comment on how much better the Swift is, if any.
I know it's somewhat apples/oranges due to the different componetry and folding differences, although both fold OK for me, and I don't mind a derailer set up.
The price difference of $150 isn't a big concern in the long run: $429 (plus maybe another $100 for lbs to check for grease everywhere and swap chainrings) compared to $679 . The Swift site says it comes tuned, ready-to-ride. DT says take to lbs. The Swift doesn't come with a rack or fender or kickstand or front fork. However, the DT equipment isn't high quality and the fender's too short. I ran it thru a puddle to check. I guess the fork is a good thing but I could live without it.
I found a post where Yan said he spec'd lower gears for the 8H but couldn't get them. I take that to mean he's selling bikes he knows aren't geared correctly. I have some trouble with that concept.
I'm not a high-mileage rider but I don't consider grease in the BB optional and correct gearing an optional "upgrade". For some of you these two items are minor operations but I don't have the tools or know-how to tackle the BB.
So is the Swift appreciably better or are the Swift people just making more money per bike?