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    Downtube frameset special order

    I am not sure how to do this, but I have heard of a few bike enthusiasts(nuts) getting together to request a special order of a frame from a builder. I have been itching to get a Downtube bike, but would like to start from scratch so that i could spend my budget on the custom build, plus I could never find a used NS in black(if there ever was one), plus I can't even find a used one(a good sign i guess). I have heard of so many other people doing modifications to theirs, that i wonder how many people would go for this. Maybe we can get Yan to order a few extra bare framesets in his next batch.
    Yan, what do you say, If we can get enough people together, can you make a custom order, or include some bare framesets in your next purchase order?

    Here starteth the petition...

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    To fold or not to fold?
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    Frankly the components are so cheap (though perfectly serviceable), I suspect the expense of a custom order would outweigh any possible savings. You might as well buy full price and chuck what you don't want away.

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    I just figured, why waste anything, plus maybe we could get a special color.

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    just out of curiosity, how would you build up your DT? Do you have a list of components in mind to make it a near perfect foldie? I would be interested in adding an 8HN model to my current IXFS.

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    Ive got a few ideas. 1. nice fg/ss commuter maybe with rear coaster brake so you could lose all the cables for a clean fold(choose your bar/saddle/accesories.2. throw a double or triple on front for club/training rides. again, BYO accessories3. I envision 10 spd rear with the single up front, and believe it or not, i thought about a friction shifter on the seatpost, or somewhere towards the rear and disc brake up front/coaster in rear, for an easy packing travel bike.4. the recumbent that sesamecrunch built(love it).Come to think of it, if i could get two frames for the cost of one complete bike, i would totally do it. I have alot of parts from other bikes that i aqcuired for the exact same reason as stated by matt52. I could be wrong and be the only mad scentist bike nut/wrench in this forum, but after seeing so many different mods in the main downtube thread(crunch's 'bent, or the maunakea racer) i'm surprised it hasnt been mentioned before. it seems to me that just the nature of folding bikes is rooted in think outside the box mentality. By the way, i had decided to go ahead and get a NS when the ,08's came out, but really i didnt care for the color, (same prob in 07) - was kind of hoping for black or white, so thats why i thought i might generate aome buzz from enough fellow Downtube fans to request a custom order.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arrasmithf View Post
    ... i'm surprised it hasnt been mentioned before...
    It has, and was turned down. But maybe you'll be more convincing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arrasmithf View Post
    3. I envision 10 spd rear with the single up front, and believe it or not, i thought about a friction shifter on the seatpost, or somewhere towards the rear and disc brake up front/coaster in rear, for an easy packing travel bike.
    You can't have a coaster brake with rear derailer. In fact you'll not find a hub for it in the first place.
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    I agree with arra. It is a huge waste to buy a fully eqipped bike and then take off and toss out all the bits. It would be much better to be able to buy the frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pm124 View Post
    I agree with arra. It is a huge waste to buy a fully eqipped bike and then take off and toss out all the bits. It would be much better to be able to buy the frame.
    I will say that the DTs are spec'd with more economically-priced componentry (which is why many DT owners have switched out parts), but because the parts are lower cost, I doubt that a frame-only option would be much cheaper (currently, the bulk of the expense is in the high quality frame).

    I think a better option would be to propose that, in addition to offering the more economically-spec'd models, DT offer "Pro" versions of their bikes as well (the Capreo-spec'd mini is already a good example). Obviously not everyone would agree on the same exact spec, but at least this option would enable the aficionados to keep most stock componentry (ie Schwalbe tires?) and still save $$$ by purchasing a complete bike (building one up from scratch will always be more expensive).
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    Quote Originally Posted by arrasmithf View Post
    ...for an easy packing travel bike.
    Have you ever tried to pack a Downtube into an internationally accepted luggage before?

    I would go for the Mini if easy packing is part of the goal.

    Just my US$0.02.

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