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Old 11-08-07, 06:32 PM   #1
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Dahon Speed 7 vs. Giant Halfway

I'm considering buying either a Dahon Sp 7 or a Giant Halfway. Both are used.
This is my first folder. I plan to travel with it so, it would need to fit into a regular suitcase. I'm fairly adept at regular bike maintenance.
Anyone care to weigh in?
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Old 11-08-07, 06:54 PM   #2
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I'm considering buying either a Dahon Sp 7 or a Giant Halfway. Both are used.
This is my first folder. I plan to travel with it so, it would need to fit into a regular suitcase. I'm fairly adept at regular bike maintenance.
Anyone care to weigh in?
What are the asking prices?
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Old 11-08-07, 07:06 PM   #3
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Giant - $265, Speed 7 - $225
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Old 11-08-07, 08:25 PM   #4
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Marcy,

I fear neither will fit into a standard airline suitcase: if that's what you mean by "regular". They both fold via a hinge in the middle and cannot be taken apart to fit in a suitcase. It's always a couple inches here or there but they're too big (I've only seen a Giant in a store and it looks big).

The way I look at it, they're both 15 second folders. I.e. they fold small with no effort such that you can stow it away quickly. What you need for a suitcase is a 15 minute folder. I.e. something that folds really small but requires some tools and more time.

I've recently tried to take my Dahon Vitesse in a suitcase and failed miserably. I'm pretty sure I would have succeeded with my Swift.

I also think you should consider the non standard hubs on the Giant. The Dahon has a non-standard front hub.
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Old 11-08-07, 10:49 PM   #5
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I'm considering buying either a Dahon Sp 7 or a Giant Halfway. Both are used.
This is my first folder. I plan to travel with it so, it would need to fit into a regular suitcase. I'm fairly adept at regular bike maintenance.
Anyone care to weigh in?
This case is not regular but it may do the job.

http://dahon.com/us/accessories/luggage/airporter.htm
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Old 11-08-07, 10:53 PM   #6
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I had plenty of negative experiences trying to travel with a Giant Halfway:

1-To make it fit into regular suitcases, you will need to remove the wheels and play a 45 minute puzzle before you actually figure out a way to make it fit (with some walls of your luggage being severely stressed by sharp ends);

2-there is no way to remove the wheels without playing with brakes and fenders. Just add more time to the fun before and after the trip;

3-The cantilever hubs are impossible to find if you travel south of the Equator. if you have a problem, you are on foot.

No experiences with the Speed 7. Good luck on your final decision.
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Old 11-09-07, 02:47 AM   #7
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http://www.gaerlan.com/dahon/pack.htm

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Marcy,

I fear neither will fit into a standard airline suitcase: if that's what you mean by "regular". They both fold via a hinge in the middle and cannot be taken apart to fit in a suitcase. It's always a couple inches here or there but they're too big (I've only seen a Giant in a store and it looks big).

The way I look at it, they're both 15 second folders. I.e. they fold small with no effort such that you can stow it away quickly. What you need for a suitcase is a 15 minute folder. I.e. something that folds really small but requires some tools and more time.

I've recently tried to take my Dahon Vitesse in a suitcase and failed miserably. I'm pretty sure I would have succeeded with my Swift.

I also think you should consider the non standard hubs on the Giant. The Dahon has a non-standard front hub.
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Old 11-09-07, 03:54 AM   #8
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Depending on how often you travel, that can become a pain way sooner than you can imagine.


Just my US$0.02

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Old 11-09-07, 11:54 AM   #9
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Thanks for your help, guys. I would LOVE to get a birdy or a brompton, but i leave for my trip next week and I can only afford to spend around $200-$250. There are plenty of dahons and the occasional giant on craigslist and ebay. Maybe I'll look for a Yeah and upgrade it later.
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Old 11-09-07, 10:12 PM   #10
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Nice! Marcy, thanks a ton for that. Will try soon. Darn I wish I knew the fork-between-chainstays trick before my last trip. This "width" issue was my biggest problem.

Well in this case I say go for the Dahon because of the hubs on the Giant and because as you have nicely proven it will fold into a suitcase. Unless you have found that the Halfway will fold as well.
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Old 11-10-07, 12:47 PM   #11
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I have a Speed 7 and it fits into a 29" Samsonite Oyster suitcase. Make sure it's a 2007 model that has an adjustable height handle post, older models without that are more difficult to pack.
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Old 11-19-07, 01:01 PM   #12
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The samsonite oyster costs $95 from Ebay, versus the Dahon suitacse for $200. The samsonite looks much sturdier, do airlines consider it 'oversize'? Is it easy to fit inside, or a tight squeeze?
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Old 11-21-07, 03:22 PM   #14
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The samsonite oyster costs $95 from Ebay, versus the Dahon suitacse for $200. The samsonite looks much sturdier, do airlines consider it 'oversize'? Is it easy to fit inside, or a tight squeeze?
Tight squeeze, the Oyster is not oversize.
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Old 11-21-07, 03:59 PM   #15
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I'm considering buying either a Dahon Sp 7 or a Giant Halfway. Both are used.
This is my first folder. I plan to travel with it so, it would need to fit into a regular suitcase. I'm fairly adept at regular bike maintenance.
Anyone care to weigh in?
This site might be of interest. BTW - I have a Dahon Speed D7 and really enjoy it.
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Old 11-28-07, 06:04 PM   #16
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Vik: I'm assuming that you would have to remove the fenders and the rack on the Speed D7 to do this suitcase trick?
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Vik: I'm assuming that you would have to remove the fenders and the rack on the Speed D7 to do this suitcase trick?
Yes, I did not try to pack them in the suitcase, fenders might fit, rack, no.
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Old 12-07-07, 08:46 PM   #18
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I have a Speed 7 and it fits into a 29" Samsonite Oyster suitcase. Make sure it's a 2007 model that has an adjustable height handle post, older models without that are more difficult to pack.
Ditto - any Dahon Speed model with adjustable handlebars will fit into an Oyster case.

http://www.gaerlan.com/dahon/pack.htm
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