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Old 11-19-07, 12:54 PM   #1
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New Logo Sneak Peak Plus Project Announcement

I am now adding my new Logo Of The World Of Folding Bicycles To most if not all my Web site series. I am placing it on my Avatar area and here in this thread in rather full detail for your enjoyment. And very soon, I will add a little suprise to my folding bike bag featured on Flickr just in time for the last days gift locating spree.

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Folder Fanatic,

Please explain the elements of the design and their significance.

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(who still has a place in Sunny, So CA, but is living in the rain in the PNW)

The picture is Ventura, CA in Sept looking toward Surfer's Point, and YES, that's a bikeway/walkway right next to the beach!
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Please explain the elements of the design and their significance.

Thanks,

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(who still has a place in Sunny, So CA, but is living in the rain in the PNW)

I am shifting my Web sites and even posts into a more professional polished look from a rather drab limiting amateur look about that series appeared to display up to now. I needed a nice snappy logo that would best reflect the world part in the all encompassing title of the interrelated sites. Yet resemble a bike or a bike part which the old photo on the Geocities sites failed to do. And of course I do not want to intrude on someone else's protected copyright work as I try to stay as original as possible.

Last week I was experimenting in Illustrator CS and developed this rather stark bike wheel which I feel will pull all together these separate elements (both personal and soon commercial) of this series of sites scattered around the Internet including this forum and others. So here it is in all it's glory. I have not quite finish yet as far as other photos, drawings, and of course text. But rest assured I am busy working on it.

Sorry about that nasty typo error in the title. I guess I am a stickler for detail!

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FF,

What is the trick to getting those squares on the pictures in Flikr that have pop-up text as you mouse over them?

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its .........Bianchi Celeste Green
not that there is anything wrong with that , but in the long run somebody will ask you to change the color as long as it is bike related .. I dont know if they have a legal leg to stand on.. but the fact that I associate the color with Binachi might be enough to get you in trouble down the road ...

Better to change it a little right now, before your logo becomes famous and than you have to change ..
looks good otherwise
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p.s. nothing to do with Bianchi ... just know that they are a little stickly with their color
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@ FolderF - great to see you're experimenting with Illustrator. As a user for something like 15 years - from the dark days of version 3.1 when you had to go into preview mode to see the colours - I know you'll get a lot of pleasure learning it's intricate and sometimes quirky ways...

@ Brakemeister: No disrespect but - c'mon - please! - I very much doubt the Bianchi people in Italy will try it on with a 'cease and desist' order over FolderF's use of Cyan in a logo; Maybe if it was a german frame maker ... but on a personal site with no economic clashes whatsoever I think that even considering possible problems along the road is overcaution on an unprecedented level and ultimately is unecessary scarmongering.

I know Prince has been wagging his finger a lot recently about intellectual property, and that T-Mobile have supposedly trademarked or at least attempted to protect the colour 'magenta' but similarly - it's not something that would possibly be something someone running a personal site about telecoms would need worry about, should their roundel happen to include the odd pink hue.

Article: Does T-Mobile own the colour magenta?

In the end - colours can be trademarked but that doesn't stop them being usable. If Tim Burton owned black what colour would all the little ____ dresses be?

Anyway to my eyes - it's not really anything near celeste green anyway.
(My eyes design websites for a living)
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as I said
I can care less.... but than I do care ( not about Bianchi for sure , but about Folding fanatic)

just that because of the color people will think Bianchi and that will limit the otherwise great logo....
I am certainly not lifting my finger and try to teach somebody anything, just that i like the work folder fanatic is doing and I would hate if there is any problem down the road ...


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FF - thanks for the background info.

I think the color is enough "off" so as not to be a problem.

Hey guys, at least she didn't name one of her sites "Folders R Us" or "Starbikes" - those could have caused some serious corporate concern........

Good luck getting your re-modeled web sites up and running.

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FF,

What is the trick to getting those squares on the pictures in Flikr that have pop-up text as you mouse over them?

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P.S. I liked your Hollywood tour.
I think you are refering to the Notes feature that Flickr offers. I find it a nice neat way of insuring myself that I can call the viewer's attention to a particular area of the photo or image I wish them to-usually important. This is how you go about adding a note to your image:
1. Sign in to Flickr
2. Click on a photo you wish to add a note(s) to.
3. Look at the top menu directly over the photo. There is a list of things that you could do to the image. Select the first one on the far left of the image's edge Add Note. Click on the link to select it. A little box with dotted lines should appear with a place to type an actual word(s) you wish to describe the particular part of the image. With your mouse, you can move the box around the image and when you click and grab the corner of the box it can grow bigger and encompass whatever size you want it to be. When you are satisfied of the size, location, and words (text) you want. click OK.

Thank you for visiting my Hollywood set. I just love visiting parts of the old neighborhood.


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its .........Bianchi Celeste Green
not that there is anything wrong with that , but in the long run somebody will ask you to change the color as long as it is bike related .. I dont know if they have a legal leg to stand on.. but the fact that I associate the color with Binachi might be enough to get you in trouble down the road ...

Better to change it a little right now, before your logo becomes famous and than you have to change ..
looks good otherwise
Thor

p.s. nothing to do with Bianchi ... just know that they are a little stickly with their color
I think Bianchi might have more issue with Adobe Illustrator than with me. I used the default color swatch pallette that came with the program they-the Adobe people- designed. I find that I don't have to worry too much about keeping the colors I use somewhat constant with all the applications I use it for. For example, this logo will be featured not only on the web, but in realtime items like (I hope not to give too much away as I am trying to keep it a suprise) coffee mugs, T shirts, business cards, and the like. Before I proceed to this step, rest assure that I will consult with my lawyer and graphics design instructor. Right now I am just beta testing the logo on the web and some limited items.

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its .........Bianchi Celeste Green
not that there is anything wrong with that , but in the long run somebody will ask you to change the color as long as it is bike related .. I dont know if they have a legal leg to stand on.. but the fact that I associate the color with Binachi might be enough to get you in trouble down the road ...

Better to change it a little right now, before your logo becomes famous and than you have to change ..
looks good otherwise
Thor

p.s. nothing to do with Bianchi ... just know that they are a little stickly with their color
Thank you for the compliment, Thor.

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@ FolderF - great to see you're experimenting with Illustrator. As a user for something like 15 years - from the dark days of version 3.1 when you had to go into preview mode to see the colours - I know you'll get a lot of pleasure learning it's intricate and sometimes quirky ways...

@ Brakemeister: No disrespect but - c'mon - please! - I very much doubt the Bianchi people in Italy will try it on with a 'cease and desist' order over FolderF's use of Cyan in a logo; Maybe if it was a german frame maker ... but on a personal site with no economic clashes whatsoever I think that even considering possible problems along the road is overcaution on an unprecedented level and ultimately is unecessary scarmongering.

I know Prince has been wagging his finger a lot recently about intellectual property, and that T-Mobile have supposedly trademarked or at least attempted to protect the colour 'magenta' but similarly - it's not something that would possibly be something someone running a personal site about telecoms would need worry about, should their roundel happen to include the odd pink hue.

Article: Does T-Mobile own the colour magenta?

In the end - colours can be trademarked but that doesn't stop them being usable. If Tim Burton owned black what colour would all the little ____ dresses be?

Anyway to my eyes - it's not really anything near celeste green anyway.
(My eyes design websites for a living)
You brought up an important point about color, Little Pixel. People see color different especially on the web. And color does shift or change a bit from monitor to monitor. Even the lighting in the room could help to shift the hue a bit. I chose the color because it is "web friendly" and "realtime friendly"-it seems to work across the span of things I want to use it in. I myself see the earth suspended in space when I did this image. Another person saw the sky. And another saw an old fashioned Kodak photo carousel slide projector in my image. But so far, no one has experienced any negative feelings about it.

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as I said
I can care less.... but than I do care ( not about Bianchi for sure , but about Folding fanatic)

just that because of the color people will think Bianchi and that will limit the otherwise great logo....
I am certainly not lifting my finger and try to teach somebody anything, just that i like the work folder fanatic is doing and I would hate if there is any problem down the road ...

thor
Bianchi is not the only bike company that uses aquamarine or blue green. I seen it on the Brompton touted or called "Turkish Green". I seen it on my Dahon Piccolo as "Coastal Blue." I seen it also as Turquoise on other bikes. Whatever the color it is the same bright blue-ish green that marks this planet.

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FF - thanks for the background info.

I think the color is enough "off" so as not to be a problem.

Hey guys, at least she didn't name one of her sites "Folders R Us" or "Starbikes" - those could have caused some serious corporate concern........

Good luck getting your re-modeled web sites up and running.

Lou
As I said before, I am unique in most respects. Even when my commerial site is up and running, it will not be 100% bike orientated (I think I would go broke if I did that) but a wide range of interesting things to do and view in my own and other's worlds. I will let the chips fall as they may. I hope all of you will like it when I am done with it.

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