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Old 03-19-08, 01:58 PM   #1
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Taiwan Trade Show Pictures

I have posted some photo's of the Taiwan Trade Show at http://downtube.com/images/Taipei_Show/ . In the coming days I will create a webpage to describe the pictures.

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Old 03-19-08, 03:20 PM   #2
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I have posted some photo's of the Taiwan Trade Show at http://downtube.com/images/Taipei_Show/ . In the coming days I will create a webpage to describe the pictures.

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Nice, Yan. Looking forward to your comments.
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Old 03-19-08, 03:57 PM   #3
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Thanks for sharing.
Missed the show by a day.
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Thanks Yan!

(Looks like you have a secret desire for carbon fibre )
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I'm crossing my fingers that this bike actually comes to market:


With Mark Sanders on board Pacific Cycles is unstoppable.
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Old 03-20-08, 11:58 AM   #6
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yeah that bikes cool Is it belt drive do you think
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yeah that bikes cool Is it belt drive do you think
I don't know, but from the look of it I believe the pictured prototype is a chain drive with a nondrive side idler/guide (if it were a belt drive then why would they bother enclosing it?). However, there are pics of another version of the prototype at the show that appears to be a shaft drive.

Although I don't see any shifters, my wish is that the enclosed chain drive would come to market with a multispeed internal hub.
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Thanks for sharing the pictures, Yan.

I swear, if I were ever (un)lucky enough to go to that show, my son would have to work his way through college .
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Anyone know who makes the ECR Folder ... it looks really nice .. wonder what the specs are for it ?

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Hi Jan

Do you mind if I add a few of these to my list as links or shamelessly steal them................

Hopefully get I'll get some good pics when we go on the Velovison trip to Spezi in Germany (although ther will not be such a rich seam of folders!)

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Thanks Yan.
There are also some more pictures on stridasingapore.com these guys sell all sorts of folding bike from Birdy & Titit to Carry-Me & Strida and have a lively forum.Day 1 Day 2 Day 3
Luuuuve those new bikes from Pacific.
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Hi, do anyone know about Giatex carbon folder? I've heard that its frame weighs only 900g and full bike 6.2kg..
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I browsed the photos and found out hasa, ori carbon folder and a new one with trispoke wheelset
I wonder which one is the Giatex
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Downtube, thanks for all pictures, like Fireworks me too are interested in the ECR Bike.
So if you know the name of company and homepage would be nice.
http://downtube.com/images/Taipei_Show/ECR_Folder.jpg

Mark Sanders Integrated Folding looks promising too. I guess he
tries to take on the challenge from those who say that small wheels
are too small. The picture, is it possible to see what dimension those
wheels are? Could it be 28" or is it a smaller bike? The one with three
spokes are that not a shaft Drive?

I looked via google for the ECR folder but I am bad at search, could not find it.

Steven took these photos, I downloaded from his Picasa site.
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Hi Jan

Do you mind if I add a few of these to my list as links or shamelessly steal them................

Hopefully get I'll get some good pics when we go on the Velovison trip to Spezi in Germany (although ther will not be such a rich seam of folders!)

Snag-free folding! Chop!
They are meant for the public domain. Steal all you want!

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Downtube, thanks for all pictures, like Fireworks me too are interested in the ECR Bike.
So if you know the name of company and homepage would be nice.
I do not remember, however I will look through my catalogs to try to get the info.

FYI the ECR bike is only nice in its final configuration. It was amazingly clumsy and awkward to get it into the folded position. In short I don't think you'd like it as much as you think.

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Yan, that could very well be as you say. what looks good when I see a picture
could be not so practical when one sit on it. I hope the IF thing Pacific has is
as good as they say. The problem is that the market for folders are so small
that they could take a long time before they reach us.
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Mark Sanders took a lot of pictures too and Velovision have them on their site.

http://www.velovision.com/storyimages/2008/taipei14.jpg

Velovision think the name of the bike is Pro Walker but nothing on their site indicate they have it.

EDIT Correction, here is the actual site. www.ezrbike.com.tw/

J88 has a similar folding tech where both wheels allow it to behave like a trolley.

Mark Sanders' Integrated Folding seems to be a very good design.
But it is surprising that Ming Cycles first owned it and then sold the rights
to Pacific Cycles.

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Mark Sanders took a lot of pictures too and Velovision have them on their site.

http://www.velovision.com/storyimages/2008/taipei14.jpg

Velovision think the name of the bike is Pro Walker but nothing on their site indicate they have it.
So the maker of it maybe had no boot and showed it between two boots? How else to explain nobody
knows what it is. J88 has a similar folding tech where both wheels allow it to behave like a trolley.

Mark Sanders' Integrated Folding seems to be a good design.
They had a booth. They nearly tripped or dropped the bike every time they tried folding the bike. The final position was great but getting there was comically clumsy.

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Just finished three pages, should finish the rest tomorrow:

See http://www.downtube.com/Folding_Bike...Show_2008/Hub/
http://www.downtube.com/Folding_Bike..._2008/Nangang/
http://www.downtube.com/Folding_Bike...w_2008/Carbon/

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Interesting.

It seems like the folders coming out of China are focused toward the highend. The next generation of folders are going to be faster and less focused on utility. The difference in wheel sizes shows they no longer are limited to the 16', 20' inch diameter anymore. This is all good news.
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Yan, thanks indeed for all the pics from the show.

ECR folder seems to actually be Pro Walker and they have text on a site.
I may have found a not updated page from them in English yesterday.

Here is the page I found today.
http://www.ezrbike.com.tw/style/fram...t_set=CN-10-3a

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Quality, Safety and Reliance have high priority in Pro Walker's (ISO 9001-2000 approval) product design standard. www.ezrbike.com.tw/
So that shows I was wrong or misled by the first pro walker page I found.

On asianet they describe the ECR fodling of the bike better

http://webbuilder2.asiannet.com/1823...id=0&id=154630

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Just finished the info at http://www.downtube.com/Folding_Bike...ike_Show_2008/

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Thanks, the extra comments provide good insight.

Coupla things I didn't notice before: The Speed One bike in front has an oval seat tube - must be very stiff.

Re the mini bikes, I find myself wondering what their point is, especially the one with 16" wheels.
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Re the mini bikes, I find myself wondering what their point is, especially the one with 16" wheels.
I agree with your thoughts. The argument I hear is that they have a smaller footprint than a regular bike and it is intended for those that don't need a folding bike. Even after the explanation I don't get it.

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