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Old 04-28-08, 12:10 PM   #1
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Bike on bus rack or folded inside?

Anyone have any horror story about storing bike on the front bus rack? Are they generally reliable?
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Old 04-28-08, 01:10 PM   #2
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Anyone have any horror story about storing bike on the front bus rack? Are they generally reliable?
Whether you are considering or have a folding bike, one of the options that I like about these bikes is that they can be folded up and taken aboard with you. The only time I ever used a front bike rack was when I was giving a regular non-folding bike away to charity. For photos of folding bikes on board see:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/world-of-folding-bicycles/351127241/in/set-72157594325178229/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/world-of-folding-bicycles/351133240/in/set-72157594325178229/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/world-of-folding-bicycles/265087991/in/set-72157594325178229/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/world-of-folding-bicycles/289494512/in/set-72157594325178229/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/world-of-folding-bicycles/265095928/in/set-72157594325178229/
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I have a horror story: I was on a rush hour bus--no way could I fit my bike in with all those people--so I had to put it on the rack. I was pushed to the back and had to exit through the rear door because I couldn't elbow my way front. I was gonna make a run for the bike rack but the bus drove off with my bike still on it!! That was $160 wasted...

I still put my folder on the front rack because like it or not I can't bring it on the bus all the time, but I watch it like a hawk and I don't let anyone elbow me to the back anymore. Just make sure to keep your eyes on the bike at all time, don't exit through the rear, and tell the driver you're getting your bike when you get off and all will be fine.
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Old 04-28-08, 05:24 PM   #4
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When I lived in Seattle, I used the front rack on the buses all the time. At first, I was wary, but after 5 or 6 trips, I felt pretty sure the bike wasn't going anywhere. And it never did. As Nekohime says, though, definitely remember to remind the driver that you're taking your bike off!

I'd go with the rack unless they're full. Then I'd fold and bring on.
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Whether you are considering or have a folding bike, one of the options that I like about these bikes is that they can be folded up and taken aboard with you. The only time I ever used a front bike rack was when I was giving a regular non-folding bike away to charity. For photos of folding bikes on board see:
You're lucky those buses and lightrails are empty. There's no way I can take two or three seats with my folder. In New York City, the bus driver has the option of not letting you on based on the size of the package. I will say this, taking up two or three seats with a folder will get comments from other passengers especially if others are standing all around you.
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You're lucky those buses and lightrails are empty. There's no way I can take two or three seats with my folder. In New York City, the bus driver has the option of not letting you on based on the size of the package. I will say this, taking up two or three seats with a folder will get comments from other passengers especially if others are standing all around you.
I always put the folder on the floor...why would you put it on the seat?
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Will most bus racks accept most folders?
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I always put the folder on the floor...why would you put it on the seat?
In folderfanatic's pictures you can clearly see that even when she puts it on the floor the bikes take up one or more seats-worth of leg space.

Here's a picture of me and my Carryme carpooling from DC to NY. I doubt I could even pull this off with a Strida.
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I have a horror story: I was on a rush hour bus--no way could I fit my bike in with all those people--so I had to put it on the rack. I was pushed to the back and had to exit through the rear door because I couldn't elbow my way front. I was gonna make a run for the bike rack but the bus drove off with my bike still on it!! That was $160 wasted...

I still put my folder on the front rack because like it or not I can't bring it on the bus all the time, but I watch it like a hawk and I don't let anyone elbow me to the back anymore. Just make sure to keep your eyes on the bike at all time, don't exit through the rear, and tell the driver you're getting your bike when you get off and all will be fine.
That's horrible Nekohime!

Did you have to buy 2 Kent folders then?
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That's horrible Nekohime!

Did you have to buy 2 Kent folders then?
Yep

In hindsight I should've taken up teh bf's offer of giving me money to help pay for a new bike--then I could've upgraded to a Dahon or Downtube.
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In folderfanatic's pictures you can clearly see that even when she puts it on the floor the bikes take up one or more seats-worth of leg space.

Here's a picture of me and my Carryme carpooling from DC to NY. I doubt I could even pull this off with a Strida.
Good picture.

I think your picture illustrates the power of the stick folder. I have taken 16 and 20 inch wheel folders inside the bus but never during rush hour because of problems it creates. The ability to fold the bike and store it between my legs while not taking up another seat is a huge plus.
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Good picture.

I think your picture illustrates the power of the stick folder. I have taken 16 and 20 inch wheel folders inside the bus but never during rush hour because of problems it creates. The ability to fold the bike and store it between my legs while not taking up another seat is a huge plus.
In a crowded bus or train, I suppose it might be possible to put a Brompton where your feet normally go and your feet on top of it, but I imagine that would be pretty uncomfortable having your knees up for the whole ride. However, I don't think even this would have worked in the pic above.

Since it was a long ride the driver of the car, who I was sitting behind, needed to have the seat far back to be comfortable. So I don't think I could have squeezed a Brompton under my feet if I wanted to and even if I could I wouldn't have been comfortable myself. The trunk was packed to the brim with Christmas presents and the rest of our luggage was piled up in whatever space was left after sitting four people in the cabin. So the only available space was between my legs and I have to say I was perfectly comfortable with my bike between them for the whole 4.5 hours.
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You're lucky those buses and lightrails are empty. There's no way I can take two or three seats with my folder. In New York City, the bus driver has the option of not letting you on based on the size of the package. I will say this, taking up two or three seats with a folder will get comments from other passengers especially if others are standing all around you.
Actually, most of the time the buses and the lightrail is quite crowded now. I am rather careful to take the Brompton first then the Piccolo in order to squeeze in rather tight spots on the cabin.

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In folderfanatic's pictures you can clearly see that even when she puts it on the floor the bikes take up one or more seats-worth of leg space....
Perhaps you missed this photo of my Brompton. It was actually taken aboard the crowded Oceanside to Los Angeles 3:30 pm return trip on Metrolink (our passenger train). I am sitting on one of the side single seat with the Brompton right in front of me. It was tucked right inside a tight spot (two metal dividers are on each side of me). I did not have the option of going to the bike area on this train car. It was already filled up with regular bikes and the conductor thought that my bike's ablity to fold and take a odd nook or space permitted someone else a prized spot in the bike section who would otherwise might be denied access-and there is only one train per day. The photo:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/world-of-folding-bicycles/265087991/in/set-72157594325178229/

The other photos were taken on days when there were not too many people at that times on purpose since I was shooting the "Touring Hollywood...." set for Flckr's Website a while back. The Subway and the lightrail photos was shot in transit for Hollywood/Burbank. I hate crowds and avoid them whenever I can. And the Burbank run is usually quite empty from 9am-3pm when originating from the airport for Metrolink Well, until gas hit 4 dollars a gallon now......

Last week I was able to take my Brompton aboard a now crowded bus line to Burbank to shop at Fry's Electronics. I had no trouble since I took no seats from someone else. I merely took a odd spot where my bike would not block the aisle (behind a seat at the rear exit. And cover the bike with it's slipcover. Absolutely no problem on the going and return trip.

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In a crowded bus or train, I suppose it might be possible to put a Brompton where your feet normally go and your feet on top of it, but I imagine that would be pretty uncomfortable having your knees up for the whole ride. However, I don't think even this would have worked in the pic above.

Since it was a long ride the driver of the car, who I was sitting behind, needed to have the seat far back to be comfortable. So I don't think I could have squeezed a Brompton under my feet if I wanted to and even if I could I wouldn't have been comfortable myself. The trunk was packed to the brim with Christmas presents and the rest of our luggage was piled up in whatever space was left after sitting four people in the cabin. So the only available space was between my legs and I have to say I was perfectly comfortable with my bike between them for the whole 4.5 hours.
Folding bikes are wonderful for most things. But I don't actually take mine everywhere with me if I could possibly avoid it. They have their place in my life.

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Old 08-18-08, 04:01 PM   #14
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for people with folders that have 16" wheels, do these fit ok on bus racks? or are they too small for the racks? also if you had a front fender, how do you handle the lock bar on the bus rack? do you put it on top of the fender? or do you put it right before? is that still safe?

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