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snafu21 06-10-08 09:09 AM

Why small bums are harsher than large ones
 
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The Speed D7 (with Rido Saddle) takes a well earned drink after a tour of Oxfordshire



Come with me now, for a trip through rural Britain. Today, our bottoms are testing the revolutionary Rido saddle, in fetching yellow & black. It's a bicycle seat above all others: designed by a genius, crafted by computers, finished by hand picked virgins, and road tested by me.


1) Fitting.

It seems to go on top of the seat post. The pointed bit faces the direction of travel. It's supposed to be 'horizontal.' It's got twin rails - a little longer than those on my ladies gel saddle - so there's more fore and aft adjustment.


2) Riding.

Ow! Ouch! OwOwWow! Yaroo! Crikey! It's like sitting on two pineapples. The design takes the weight completely away from your Area 51, and shifts it to the Twin Peaks of No Mans Land . (Or Woman's).

You may be a different shape to I, and probably are if you're male, but Holy Mary, Mother of God, my b*m does not like it. Ow!


3) Touring

I wussed out and put my gel saddle back on. A pity, because the Rido is so nearly there for me. It needs a bit less 'hard as concrete' and a bit more ''sheepskin rug'. There is no pressure in the Ladies Downstairs Department and from that er, viewpoint it's perfect. But damn hard.. Crikey! Very hard. A MKII is promised.


4) Verdict

I tried. I did ten miles or so on it round Oxfordshire today, in the bright sunshine. The English Summer, as many of you know, lasts from the 9th of June until the 11th, and we Brits like to make the most of it.

The Speed D7 is my pootling bike, and good for the back lanes of the countryside. The lanes are deserted mid-week - the Oxfordshire cube monkeys and their Range Rovers are elsewhere, and the main hazard is Oxfordshire Wives and their Volvo Touring Wagons, stuffed with children, Sainsburies No Calorie Ready Meals, rattan furniture and labradors.

No matter. O/W's do not venture through be-mired and cow-spattered country lanes, nor dip their toes in babbling brooks, or espy hares sitting motionless in fields. Birds seems to be unafraid of the little bike as it meanders along sunlight byways: blackbirds twitter in hedgerows as I scoot past, woolly ostriches peer over fences, and feral chickens hiss and beat their wings to protect their nesting young.

The only fly in this bucolic, sunlit ointment is my bottom. It's rather sore, actually. DEspite this, my love affair with the D7 continues. The Rido saddle? I don't know. I'm still trying to forget the experience.

Your mileage, as our American cousins say, may vary.

maranen 06-10-08 11:20 AM

Hi
I have the same experience with a Selle light-weight titanium-rail saddle. After 15 minutes my bum was in pain. My modified Merc saddle feels much better. IMHO price and comfort donít go hand in hand. I wonder if there is any rule of thumb to choose a saddle. Like, if your riding position is such that the saddle is lower than the handle-post, you can choose from certain type of saddles. It would be nice if there could be a table of different saddles on one column and on the other columns there might be your riding style (road bike, erect grand-ma), your bumís geometry etc.

EvilV 06-10-08 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snafu21 (Post 6853370)
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The Speed D7 (with Rido Saddle) takes a well earned drink after a tour of Oxfordshire

A very nice turn of prose there. You make it sound almost idyllic - the riding territory that is, not the saddle.

nigelme 06-10-08 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snafu21 (Post 6853370)
Ow! Ouch! OwOwWow! Yaroo! Crikey! It's like sitting on two pineapples.

...the Rido is so nearly there for me. It needs a bit less 'hard as concrete' and a bit more ''sheepskin rug'. But damn hard.. Crikey! Very hard.

The Rido saddle? I don't know. I'm still trying to forget the experience.

From the Rido website - "A unique concept in 'Pressure-Shift' bicycle saddle design ... and the longer you ride, the better it gets!"

"Sitting comfortably on a bicycle is all about the effective dispersal and manipulation of the
pressure of the downward force of the rider's weight as it impacts on the saddle's surface.

Subtly shifting the pressure away from those sensitive and delicate areas of the anatomy
and onto those parts for which sitting is really intended. This is the RIDO saddle concept
and it will both rejuvenate and enhance your enjoyment of cycling."


Couldn't find any mention of the Virgins or chickens!

Are you suggesting their web bumf is not universal truth?

Still, what do you expect for less than a 'Pavarotti'?

mulleady 06-10-08 02:41 PM

Poor Nigel back to the hammerhead now!

Hope you are well after the Hyde park meet and you recovered from the Oxfordshire ride.

Bought a new Brooks narrow saddle for my Brompton. Looks great and not too bad for a hard saddle to begin with and it can only improve with time. My Irish ass will soon wear it in nicely :D

Had an argument in Regent St with a 'cube monkey' driven by an some ape (too kind a word that belongs to some noble creatures) who blew the horn coming out of a side road. I said:
'Get yourself a decent car' in reaction to their sneering of my Brompton and abuse for existing on a cycle
Their retort: 'what do you call that?' I reply 'it's a folding bike but you are probably too thick to know that', lights go green and my final 'F 4 wheel drives' and off I head on to the other side of Regent St towards Piccadilly Circus to join my students at their Graduation Ball. I'm sure on reflection they looked like professional footballers (soccer to you Americans) as their big 4 wheel panzer was so flash and they so smug. would account for their lack of brain cells too!

Did you get the train from London to do the Oxfordshire ride Nigel?

jur 06-10-08 05:07 PM

Haha, snafu21 you are a hoot! As said, nice turn of prose (though I wouldn't blaspheme).

Saddle-wise, you are ripe for a Brooks saddle.

snidelys4 06-10-08 08:37 PM

Because of this forum's existence, I have a DT mini and have added the word "pootling" to my vocabulary.
Best Forum Ever.

Clownbike 06-10-08 08:39 PM

I've been on a Terry Liberator, non gel, for a bit less than a year now and it's proven to be quite comfortable for the 30 - 40 miles we do on an average once or twice a week. I've got absolutely no padding, so some is helpful in the saddle. Still have the seat from the Peugeot that I put 4,700 on one summer in '72 and have been thinking of sticking it on the Birdy to see if the two bits still remember each other.

stevegor 06-10-08 09:06 PM

Very, very funny use of wit to turn Jur's thread that way :roflmao2::roflmao2:

jur 06-10-08 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snidelys4 (Post 6858176)
Because of this forum's existence, I have a DT mini

+1
Quote:

Originally Posted by snidelys4 (Post 6858176)
and have added the word "pootling" to my vocabulary.

+1
Quote:

Originally Posted by snidelys4 (Post 6858176)
Best Forum Ever.

+1
I have to add:

:thumb:

invisiblehand 06-10-08 09:10 PM

:lol:

Excellent post! :thumb:

snafu21 06-11-08 01:46 AM

To pootle, or not pootle: that is the question:
Whether 'tis nobler in the gluteus maximus to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous pineapples,
Or to take arms against a perineum of troubles,
And by pootling further, to end them? To die: to sleep;
No more; and by a pootle to say we end
The bum-ache and the thousand natural shocks
That flesh is heir to, 'tis a consummation
Devoutly to be wish'd.
To die, to sleep; to pootle...


Off to my cube now. I have a gel saddle. No more slings and arrows.

nigelme 06-11-08 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snafu21 (Post 6859370)
To pootle, or not pootle: that is the question:
Whether 'tis nobler in the gluteus maximus to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous pineapples,
Or to take arms against a perineum of troubles,
And by pootling further, to end them? To die: to sleep;
No more; and by a pootle to say we end
The bum-ache and the thousand natural shocks
That flesh is heir to, 'tis a consummation
Devoutly to be wish'd.
To die, to sleep; to pootle...


Off to my cube now. I have a gel saddle. No more slings and arrows.

"..I have of late, but wherefore I know not, lost all my girth,
and indeed, it goes so heavily with my sit position
that this goodly frame, my bot,
seems to me a sterile promontory
..."

snafu21 06-11-08 04:30 AM

" a sterile promontory..."





Can I interested you in a Rido saddle? It's said to prevent just that condition...





nigelme 06-11-08 04:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snafu21 (Post 6859531)
Can I interested you in a Rido saddle? It's said to prevent just that condition...

No thanks! My 'disposition' is fine.

Karl ( Karlgw ) had a Rido on his Pacific Reach, it looked like a big Fruit Gum; he said it was fine.

Someone on another thread suggested that it takes a while to adjust to a new saddle or indeed 'it' to 'you'.

snafu21 06-17-08 12:36 PM

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Spurred on by the death threats from my bank manager, I've been trying not to spend more money on bike bitz. The Rido saddle, I had to give it another go.

I whacked it on the Hammerhead. Wooo!! Bliss. Huge improvement.

Eh? The HH puts more weight on the TT bars and tilts the rider forrard compared to the D7's 'sit up and beg' position.. Result was very encouraging.

G/F hopped on and tootled round the block. Came back happy. So will leave it on for an extended trial ..


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