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Old 06-15-08, 08:27 PM   #1
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Dahon MU SL Wheel Strength?

I am interested in the MU SL for the weight, but by conventional wisdom the very airy wheels, and especially the rear with lack of crossed spokes, tend to scare me.

Does anyone have experience with them?
Long term?
Do they get out of whack and damage easily?
I'd welcome all opinions and experiences.
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Old 06-16-08, 02:24 AM   #2
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I have only had mine for 3 weeks but I have been using it everyday. I did 40 miles on it the first weekend. Last Saturday I did 25 miles in one trip.
I am 12st. (168lbs)and have not had any problems at all. I have mainly been riding on surfaced roads and have been able to avoid any pot holes. The wheels run perfectly true and I think they are a really beautiful design. I wouldn’t worry, they are going to be fine.... oh and the bike is really great!!!!
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Old 06-16-08, 03:36 AM   #3
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I bought my Jetstream XP- with paired spoke wheels made by Rolf Prima themselves rather than Dahon's licenced version- second-hand in November. It's three years old or so, rear's been replaced as I had DualDrive fitted (it was, however, immaculate running condition) and the front's been absolutely no bother whatsoever.
They may look fragile, but they're not. Rolf's technology is well-proven and highly regarded.
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Old 06-16-08, 10:59 AM   #4
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The Jetstream is absolutely one of my favorite bikes!
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The wheels are strong, but if you kick up a branch into the spokes, they are more likely to bite dust. That's one reason why folks with strong hand built wheels carry more spokes. I only put 500 miles on them, but they held up fine. I think that the AC hubs are more of a problem on the unsuspended bike.

It's the rest of the bike I would worry about. They have made significant improvements in the bike, but it probably still won't hold up like a more expensive Bike Friday or Birdy would.

IMHO, the bike is fast, but only on perfectly smooth surfaces. My Birdy is much faster in general (or I'm in better shape). The new Kojack tires might have taken care of that problem as well. The upside is that it was a pleasure to fold and carry, and is very inexpensive for what it is. If you ride the bike infrequently, it's a good deal. If you plan on putting 15,000 miles on it, you might not get that far with your teeth all in one place.
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Thanks for the replies.

With 4 other bikes in the barn, my intention is for a part time ride. I love my Ellsworth, Fat Chance and Klein mountainbikes, but they just can't make it to vacation or in the trunk to car service trips and the likes.

But then again, who knows if a new folder might get more interest once it's tried.
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I bought my Jetstream XP- with paired spoke wheels made by Rolf Prima themselves rather than Dahon's licenced version- second-hand in November. It's three years old or so, rear's been replaced as I had DualDrive fitted (it was, however, immaculate running condition) and the front's been absolutely no bother whatsoever.
They may look fragile, but they're not. Rolf's technology is well-proven and highly regarded.
Where did you get the unlicensed 20" RPs?
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Where did you get the unlicensed 20" RPs?
Fitted to the bike- '04 XPs (plus Helios XXs) had Rolf Prima Accel wheels as standard, also available as accessories. As of '05 model year, Dahon switched to their own Kinetix Pro wheels, using the paired spoke technology under licence. I've seen the Rolf originals on eBay from time to time.
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The wheels are strong, but if you kick up a branch into the spokes, they are more likely to bite dust. That's one reason why folks with strong hand built wheels carry more spokes. I only put 500 miles on them, but they held up fine. I think that the AC hubs are more of a problem on the unsuspended bike.

It's the rest of the bike I would worry about. They have made significant improvements in the bike, but it probably still won't hold up like a more expensive Bike Friday or Birdy would.

IMHO, the bike is fast, but only on perfectly smooth surfaces. My Birdy is much faster in general (or I'm in better shape). The new Kojack tires might have taken care of that problem as well. The upside is that it was a pleasure to fold and carry, and is very inexpensive for what it is. If you ride the bike infrequently, it's a good deal. If you plan on putting 15,000 miles on it, you might not get that far with your teeth all in one place.
I reckon if you chuck a branch into the spokes of most wheels you are going to face problems. I've got a MUSL 2007 version and can only cover it with glory - it is fast on the stock version - quickest bike in the Smithfield Nocturne (well with the quickest rider too) and was pretty quick even with me on it! I've not had any problem with it on any London roads. Stelvios are fine, ride can be a bit hard. I ride the bike every day, doing about 20 miles a day with an unfold, a fold, an unfold and another fold, have put well over 1,000 miles on it and have only had a problem with the bearings going in the headset (oh and one puncture once I swapped out the SV6As). It has been as reliable as any non-folder I have had and more fun. I can't comment on the Birdy/Bike Friday, but to me, this bike has done everything I have asked of it and more.
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I reckon if you chuck a branch into the spokes of most wheels you are going to face problems.
Another advantage of small wheels. I ride through some neighborhoods where I've had to fist fight over my bike before, but I fear there's almost nothing I can do about branches in the spokes.

The smaller the wheel diameter the smaller the target.
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