I've just started riding again after about 20 years. Older and heavier at 64, I have a problem with pain in my palms from trigger finger (Dupuytren's contracture) surgery. It seems as though I need to sit very upright to relieve discomfort brought by the pressure of leaning forward. I've replaced the stock bars with Nitto Promenades, which while very nice bars, they seem to be about a hand length too short and/or two to three inches too low. Jur has mentioned how he started upright and became comfortable leaned over, but if he or someone else found a comfortable setup before experience taught them a better position, I'd appreciate the help.