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Old 09-09-08, 02:19 PM   #26
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- are you sure its supposed to have one large cable and not two smaller? I ordered a brand new stock tikit from Bike friday and College park bikes assembled it and it has the two smaller cables.
- Two smaller cables means an old style Tikit. I got mine in late 2007 and it was the new single cable design

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- It didnt do this the first few times i folded it, but now when i pop the seat out and fold under the back wheel, the front stem does not loosen, and the headset clamp stays tightly on. IF i reach down and pull it a bit it loosens, but it doesnt do it automatically
- most likely you just need to put a touch of lube on the inside of the "C" shaped silver clamp - that will let it pop off without you touching it when the bike is folded.

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- My seat doesnt stay securely in. It stays in and clicks, but if i pick it up and shake it or even pick it up fast the seat releases.
- that's normal. The seat isn't designed to stay in place if your weight isn't on the saddle. This actually helps make it fast to fold.

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-is it possible i got a 2007 tikit instead of an 08? I only ordered it 3 weeks ago, but they shipped it from bike friday, so i assumed it would be the latest model. Any other way to tell?

Im guessing i should just take this bike back up to the shop and let them play with these things, but im afriad theyll take it away from me and I wont be able to enjoy my precioussssss...err i mean my new tikit
- sounds like you were sold old stock. I would take it back and ask for a new Tikit or a refund.

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despite the above it handles great and chews up the few hills i have to deal with. the gears may be a little low for me, but ill give it a few weeks to decide if i really want to go through with the hassle of upgrading to higher gearing.
Give the stock gearing a chance. I like to ride fast and don't use really low gears on my other bikes. I find the Tikit gearing ideal for bombing around town. I can climb steep hills and crank out 30kph on the highway. I do use the full range and occasionally would like a slightly higher and slightly lower gear, but 95% of the time it's perfect and I like the simplicity of an 8 speed drivetrain.
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Old 09-09-08, 03:50 PM   #27
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I brought my tikit in over the weekend and pointed out the lack of drilling, and requested the owner of the shop to contact Bike Friday. Got the customary less-than-delighted-to-help attitude.

In comparing my bike to newer in-stock models, they still had at least one 2007 model that they thought was a newer one. I don't know if Bike Friday isn't being clear on what they're shipping or if something shady is going on. Can't say I like it, regardless.

I'll let folks know how it goes.
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Old 09-09-08, 09:34 PM   #28
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ok im a little confused by the slot versus hole thing.... where is this slot or hole? under the seat? on the handle bars? sorry im sort of a bike newb, so maybe im just not familiar with terminology. Other than the cable set i think it is a newer tikit. the handlebars are black, the locks for the seat post and handlebars are metal. I emailed bike friday, and they said they think they just accidentally shipped the old cable system out, and that they would be shipping a updated cable set to College Park Bikes tomorrow. Till then, the bike still works and is fun, so ill enjoy it until the cable arrives.

Also when the creaking happens, it only happens when pulling on th eright side of the handlebars. Since the clamp is on the left, I guess this would make sense. Anywho ill show it to the bike shop guys and maybe the newer cable will solve the issue.

I can also say I really wouldve enjoyed a internal gear hub today. I was riding up a *****in hill on the way back from volleyball and my chain popped off and jammed between bike frame and gearing. Had to stop pry it out and reattach it. Problem then was it was in the highest gear and I was on a steep hill, so somehow i had to gain enough momentum to pedal so i could change gears, i had to find a parking lot off the hill to get some flat ground to get to a lower gear. A hub would have solved that real nice.
that brings me to another question, is it a good idea to only fold the bike in the highest gear? could I have messed up chain tension by folding it in a wrong gear?

Im pretty sure College bikes didnt give me the tikit they had in stock. The one they did have was a medium prototype tikit. This one they had to order and assemble.


Vik, Just wanted to thank you for your awesome Blog, it helped me a ton when i was agonizing over a tikit vs MU SL. For the record College Park bikes seems to love the MU SL as they tried their hardest to steer me that way. Luckily i did my research and knew what i wanted. And can't say i regret it. Ironically i bought this thing for its intermodal capabilities, and now I dont even want to get on the metro, just want to bike everywhere
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Old 09-09-08, 10:37 PM   #29
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- It didnt do this the first few times i folded it, but now when i pop the seat out and fold under the back wheel, the front stem does not loosen, and the headset clamp stays tightly on. IF i reach down and pull it a bit it loosens, but it doesnt do it automatically

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-When i pull alot on the stem it creaks or clicks a bit. Mainly happens when im starting up hill and trying to build up momentum. is this natural or is this something to do with the smaller cables or something not adjusted right?
These two problems are the same: you need to lightly grease the inside surface of the C-clamp, and it'll go away like magic.

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-is it possible i got a 2007 tikit instead of an 08? I only ordered it 3 weeks ago, but they shipped it from bike friday, so i assumed it would be the latest model. Any other way to tell?
If it's two cables, it's a 2007 for sure. BF wouldn't do that to you: there must have been a mixup at College Park Bikes.

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ok im a little confused by the slot versus hole thing.... where is this slot or hole?
When you fold the Tikit, the rear triangle (the black part of the frame that folds with the rear wheel) locks to the main portion of the frame with a "click" so you can pick the bike up without it unfolding on you. If you look carefully, you'll see this is accomplished by a small post popping into (on the 2007 Tikits) a long slot on the rear triangle. On all but the earliest 2008 Tikits, this slot was replaced with a small, precise hole. The new design is more resistant to accidental damage. Anyway, it's a clear distinction between the two.

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Im pretty sure College bikes didnt give me the tikit they had in stock. The one they did have was a medium prototype tikit. This one they had to order and assemble.
College Park is the sister store to Mt. Airy Bicycles, near Frederick. I know for a fact that Mt. Airy has at least one if not more Tikits. One of which was a 2007 upgraded to have the single cable. The two stores trade stock.

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that's normal. The seat isn't designed to stay in place if your weight isn't on the saddle. This actually helps make it fast to fold.
I am forced to disagree with Vik here. The seat on a new Tikit *will* withstand a picking-up and direct up-and-down shaking, at least on the four Tikits I've tested or owned. If you shake to the side or at a strong angle, it'll pop out, since that's the torque and angle at which you remove the seat in the first place. That Vik's isn't doing this is of some concern to me -- he's owned his bike longer than others. I hope this doesn't imply wear.
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Old 09-09-08, 11:24 PM   #30
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I am forced to disagree with Vik here. The seat on a new Tikit *will* withstand a picking-up and direct up-and-down shaking, at least on the four Tikits I've tested or owned. If you shake to the side or at a strong angle, it'll pop out, since that's the torque and angle at which you remove the seat in the first place. That Vik's isn't doing this is of some concern to me -- he's owned his bike longer than others. I hope this doesn't imply wear.
Well to clarify on my oldest Tikit [which has been folded a ton] the seatpost sticks tenaciously. So much so I'm actually thinking of lubing the mating surfaces as I have to hit the seat quite hard to release it. On my newer Seasons Tikit the seatpost will stay in place if I lift the bike lightly, but pops out if I lift the bike fast or shake it at all.

I prefer the easy release of the Seasons Tikit and won't be sad at all if my older Tikit loosens up a bit in this area. Have a look at the rear triangle and how it attaches to the mainframe. When you are riding the Tikit there is no way for the rear triangle to unlock without you actually lifting the seat and rotating it forward. Even if you did that you could still ride the bike by standing on the pedals.

It's a smart design and a seatpost that releases easily isn't a safety hazard or liability in any way. If there was a way to tune the release tension I set it to release easily.
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Old 09-10-08, 04:33 AM   #31
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When you fold the Tikit, the rear triangle (the black part of the frame that folds with the rear wheel) locks to the main portion of the frame with a "click" so you can pick the bike up without it unfolding on you. If you look carefully, you'll see this is accomplished by a small post popping into (on the 2007 Tikits) a long slot on the rear triangle. On all but the earliest 2008 Tikits, this slot was replaced with a small, precise hole. The new design is more resistant to accidental damage. Anyway, it's a clear distinction between the two.

Checkout this blog, it has some great pics of the "tongue's"...aka "paddles".

http://fucawe.blogspot.com/

1. One tongue is a part of the rear triangle - when you flip the rear wheel under this tongue passes over and locks onto a tiny post that is part of the main frame. This prevents the rear wheel/triangle from becoming loose...err flopping around when folded.

2. The second tongue is attached to the bottom of the seat post assembly - near the bottom bracket where the seat post pivots. It is curved so that it slides behind the first tongue. When you raise the seat post to towards the unfolded position this second tongue slides and lifts the first tongue off the post - unlocking the rear triangle.

As stated above by Feijai, on the older version the 1st tongue has a slot to catch the tiny post. The new version is just a round hole. It is also shorter. The issue with the older version is that over time it bends or can get knocked out of it's optimum angle.
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Old 09-10-08, 09:48 AM   #32
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ok so I think i have the right clamp, as it looks like a hole, but i took a pic anyway for clarification
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Old 09-10-08, 11:13 AM   #33
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Can you post a picture of the cables near the folding stem and near the rear triangle?

It looks like you have the newer style, and I can only see one cable.
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Can you post a picture of the cables near the folding stem and near the rear triangle?

It looks like you have the newer style, and I can only see one cable.
+1 - based on that pic I'd say you had the single cable current version of the Tikit.

An easy way to tell is the old dual cable system used bicycle brakes cables and the new single cable hyper-fold uses a 3 or 4mm cable that is much thicker than any bike cable.
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yeah it seems to be the right cable. I think the confusion occurred for me because when i folded down the handlebars, I saw two cables connecting into the handlebars, so i assumed it was two and not one cable. But your right, it is a 3-4mm thick cable, and this just seems to be my own confusion. I still get a wierd creak noise every time i strain on the right side of the handlebars, but im guessing this is just part of the flex and play inherent in the tikit, and it doesnt seem to affect anything other than my confidence im not damaging something.

The weather today in DC is perfect for riding, high 60s and a good breeze.
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That, my friend, is a 2008 Tikit hyperfold.
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