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Old 07-20-14, 12:39 PM   #501
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tyres main one,
else grips, and you choice of pedal system......personally have given up on folding pedals

not a lot else, you might benifiet from better brake pads like koolstop etc , but not really needed on v brakes. I tend to fit telfon linned kelar cables and Teflon linned innerss, but birdie cable routing seems ok and I would tend to only replace or refit with this upgrade if there is a problem or as a replacement/servicing
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Thanks again mate.

Any idea on were I can get some aftermarket parts from?

Love the look of the colour+ - colour plus parts, but any high end parts would be nice
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Old 07-21-14, 03:00 AM   #503
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I tend to just do functional improvements rather than bling!!
Bling on the cheap yes...
Often makes more sense to buy another used bike than upgrade with new premium parts.

If you want to spend money on it, have a vision. Ie comfort, weight reduction, looks, touring, fast fold......

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Yeah what I am aiming for is to make the bike light as possible. But a bit of bing if done properly does look nice .

I have decided to buy the 2014 city premium, and have found 2 shops that sells Birdys in the UK.

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I will be test riding one this week, cannot wait
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Old 07-21-14, 03:19 PM   #505
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Main way of saving weight would be to fit the excellent kojack tyres. Bike is then focused for road use. You might be able to get them swoped with the purchase?
There are carbon wheel sets also for the birdie.
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Old 07-22-14, 10:10 PM   #506
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Hi
would someone please tell me where I can find the front pivot bolt. Just check and I lost one ahhhhh no wonder I had some play when cornering.

Never mind found it last set lol http://www.simpsoncycles.co.uk/produ...g-arm-bush-kit
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Old 07-23-14, 02:46 AM   #507
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Yeah what I am aiming for is to make the bike light as possible. But a bit of bing if done properly does look nice .

I have decided to buy the 2014 city premium, and have found 2 shops that sells Birdys in the UK.

Folding bikes uk
Simpsons cycles

I will be test riding one this week, cannot wait
And here - York Folding Bikes | Folding Bikes in York, North Yorkshire
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Thanks mate

Thay are doing a decent price on the Birdy light

I think i will go with Folding bike uk cuze they have good price on the City Premium, but more importantly there customers service was excellent.

I am going to test one out tomorrow give a little feedback.

Also found this shop that sells after market bits but not sure if they ship to the UK.
Sent email but no rely as yet.
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Old 07-24-14, 08:49 AM   #509
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I would test a Birdy World also. Its more like the original Birdy frame which I prefer rather than the Monocoque frame.
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I would test a Birdy World also. Its more like the original Birdy frame which I prefer rather than the Monocoque frame.
Took a trip to Simpsons Cycles today and test rid the only Birdy they had in stock, (Birdy Light 2012/13 version)

I am a folding bike novice but in the last month I have test rid the below and this is my personal bite size impressions.

Tern S11i 2014 version, 1280 Evans.

I felt this bike was a good size for my 6.4FT and 11 stone frame, loved the way that the handle bars adjust so you can change your riding position to upright cruising, or normal low racing position.

The bike frame + 20" wheels felt solid and very fast.
The Brakes OK.
Bike Folding 15 Sec.
The 11 gears where a bit clunky at times when changing but the bike was a very enjoyable ride, overall rating 7 out of 10.

Brompton 2014,Steel Raw Lacquer, S Handle bars, 6 Gears, 1020 Brompton.

I found this bike better then the Tern in almost all category's, but I could not get use to the small size of the bike also the flimsy handle bars and gear levers.

Brakes OK.
Folding 11 Sec.
6 Gears Excellent very smooth when changing up or down, overall rating 8 out of 10.

Birdy Light, 2012/13 Model 1369.00 Folding bikes UK.

Plane and simple I love this bike, when you come face to face with its stylistic design and its Lovely Matt Anthracite finish all you will say is WOW.

The size of the bike is nice for my height/ build, and much more comfortable then the Tern and the Brommie.
The front suspension was better then I fought it would be, only giving you a small cushion when going over road humps at speed.
The handle bars and seat post height if fully adjustable.
Frame and 18" wheel also felt very sold and I was able to jump of curbs and even pull a wheelies with ease.
The Birdy did feel a bit slower to get going then the Tern and Brommie, but after a couple of pedals it was very fast and stable over rough ground.

Brakes Same as above OK but not disk brakes.
Folding took me about 20 - 25 Sec.
Gears better then the Tern but not as good as the Brompton.

I enjoyed this bike very much, it is a more comfortable ride than the Brompton/Tern when cruising or at speed, the adjustable handle bars and seat are a big+ for me, also the bike looks great. overall rating 8.5 out of 10.

Now I cannot wait to get the Birdy City Premium, 2014 model. Will be even better than above

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Old 07-25-14, 11:12 PM   #511
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At 6'4" you will probably want the Sport Stem as shown on the pictures of the Birdy Light rather than the Comfort Stem shown on the picture of the City Premium. You will probably also want to turn the seat post so that the clamp is behind the post.

Not sure what model gear components are on the Light but it sounds as though they may have needed adjustment.

From the pictures it looks as though both bikes might have Marathon Racer tyres which should be fine.

I would probably prefer the Birdy Light due to lower weight. It may also have some better and lighter components

The City Premium gives you a cleaner chain (further from the muck). Apart from that, I think "Premium" may refer to the extra price.

If the OEM pedals aren't great, you might want to consider the MKS Promenade EZY removable pedals.
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The Birdy light had a grip twist gears system, which was OK, but I believe the Birdy City Perimum Has a Hub gear system with normal handle bar leavers which I prefer.

If it wasn't for the fact I am getting the bike through a Cycle Scheme, which brings the bike down to 1180, and monthly installments I would probably of gone for a Birdy World.

I will definitely check out those pedals, thanks
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I'm in Bristol, UK and seeking a used Birdy. Happy to travel to view. Anyone have anything?

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To European users:

I'm considering a new Birdy. What are the advantages of the monocoque Light vs the World Sport? Is it worth the extra 300?

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To European users:

I'm considering a new Birdy. What are the advantages of the monocoque Light vs the World Sport? Is it worth the extra 300?

Steve
I no pro, but from my understanding the main difference in the monocoque frame is Looks, advanced engineered and slightly lighter.

Apparently it costs more for them to manufacture the Monocoque frame that is why there is a300 premium.

IMO the Monocoque design looks amazing, but I can see why people would like the classic frame as well.

In London everywhere you look you will see someone riding a Bromptom (love them but very common)

If you want to be a little bit different get your self a new BIRD/Y
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Are you sure that the monocoque is lighter? IIRC, it was heavier than the original frame which looks similar to the world frame. The only weights I've seen were for whole bikes with different components tires etc.
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Are you sure that the monocoque is lighter? IIRC, it was heavier than the original frame which looks similar to the world frame. The only weights I've seen were for whole bikes with different components tires etc.
Yeah not sure of the frame weight by itself but here in the UK, the most popular Birdy is the Light which comes in @ 10.9 kg, the Birdy World Sport is 11.9 kg and the World Comfort is 14.2kg.

The Birdy that I have just ordered through my work cycle scheme is Birdy 2014, Premium City, comes in @ 11.7kg.

All bike weights are from base models no extras.

On a side note does anyone know of a high quality comfort/commute/city pedal?
Seems that the Birdy's come with low quality pedals which I what to replace asap.

Also web links to any other good upgrade parts would be great.

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The monocoque is stronger I believe and is less likely to crack around the seatpost clamp than the older version afaik.

I recomemd mks or wellgo detachable folding pedals. It's possible to get the wellgo for 25 pounds and you can also use the qr to swop between the standard or clippin versions.

If you get the mks it has its own cleat system. Shimano spd cleats don't work with mks but mks cleats work with both pedal systems.
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Hi All

I'm just putting an order in on a Birdy touring. Am getting the touring mainly because where I live is exceptionally hilly even for my commute rather than for long tours.

Looking for advice on luggage. I was going to order rear rack and fit a pannier to it for daily commute as was worried front pannier would affect handling. However, have seen advice to contrary. In others experience is the lowrider or handlebar set-up better for a one pannier (handlebar at least then gives symmetry) commute? It's certainly cheaper!

One point though. I have read in one review the rear rack helps support the bike in standing when folded. This could be very useful - I don't want it easily flopping over from lightest touch. Have other owners found this to be the case?

Cheers, much appreciated.
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Sharing my Classic Birdy!

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Finally I am done with adjusting my birdy bike. upgrade to kojak tires, replace missing bold, change the front suspension, move the seat forward. Replace the handle bar with butterfly bar. I set it vertical so that I can ride upright or forward
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Nice Bikes cal0i, tdong ,

Still waiting on my Birdy 2014 City
Premium to come from Germany, should be here any time now .

Test rid these a few weeks ago

Tern 2014, S11i
Brompton 2014, 6 speed raw lacquer
Birdy 2013, Light

My opinion the Birdy was by far the BEST overall.


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I recently had a valve problem and came back home to swop my better condition birdie red with the adjustable stem(comfort?) for my back up silver with the sports stem. Red has big apple silver matharons.

Really different bikes, position so much stretched out on the sport stem.

Really struck me how different these changers to set up can be. Reminds me of bespoking Brompton in this manner, but with more success in achieving a good riding position.
Might focus my silver birdie for weight loss and speed in future. Kojacks a possibility.
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I have Kojaks, the fixed sports stem and Avid Arch Rival brakes on my Red and I like the combination.

One of these days I'll get around to upgrading the derailleur, shifter and gear cluster.
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Hello

I was wondering: How feasible is it to replace the derailleur with an Alfine 8 or 11?

Someone's selling his Birdy for a good price, but I'm now used to using an IGH.

Thank you.
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