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Old 10-22-08, 04:31 PM   #1
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Bikes light/small enough for back pack?

A-bike is light enough. some 6kg max?
But it is only good for some 85kg rider.
I weight in at some 98 kg and failed to
loose weight below 89 kg when I did a
serious attempt at loosing weight recently
now I am back at 98 kg.

The only other bike I know that are
small and light is the Italian "LineUp"

Lineup Ultra Mini folding bike

http://www.foldingcyclist.com/Lineup...ding-bike.html

pic http://www.foldingcyclist.com/Lineup...lding-bike.jpg

But could also be found on this home page.

http://www.geocities.com/pganio/safe...pfolding03.htm

It is also named Mini125 cause the wheels is 125 Millimeters. There is also a Wikipedia entry.

And I guess the constructor has mention it here in the forum but I fail to find it now.

These are the only one weighting below 6 kg? that are easy to buy.

I know there are concept bikes in prototype claiming 4kg but
you can't buy one AFAIK. How heavy rider this micro mini bike can take
I have no idea. I guess max 80Kg. So I am too big.

why backpack? Cause the food shop don't allow real bikes to be taken into the shop.
But if I can hide it within a bag then they would not say anything. so it need to be
light enough to be carried on my back. Not every shop has "Cart" that can take a
bigger and more heavy bike like a Brompton. My Strida is too big to be hidden in a sac.
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Old 10-22-08, 05:38 PM   #2
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I believe it would be a mistake to take a max rider weight as some kind of infallible decree passed down from above.

It's quite obvious that if an 85kg rider could destroy a bike by riding delicately then so could an 84kg rider riding vigorously. Since there's no objective way for a manufacturer to specify precisely what kind of riding a bike of a given weight limit is meant to withstand nor is there any way to specify exactly how long a bike needs to withstand such punishment, I find it difficult to attribute much importance to nominal rider weights.

I've seen many reports of A-bike riders destroying their bikes despite being under the weight limit and despite me exceeding the weight limit of my Carryme on occasion and riding it off of curbs (contrary to the manufacturers warning) I've yet to have any problems.

If I were you, Weakling, and I intended to ride as I believe you intend to ride (ie slow and without much vigor) then I'd not hesitate to ride a bike with an 85kg "limit".

In any case the designer of the "Lineup" bike is a member of this forum; So perhaps he'll comment.
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Old 10-22-08, 05:41 PM   #3
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Mini125 was being updated but I think that there's no way to handle so much weight (the old model said something like 80 kg).

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Old 10-22-08, 09:29 PM   #4
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i see this bike wheels are using the same rollerblade wheels or those razor scooter wheel. y even bother buying this when u can get rollerblades or a razor scooter for much cheaper?
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Old 10-22-08, 10:03 PM   #5
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I think you would be better off with a Xootr Scooter. It weighs under 4.5 kg and I would imagine would be more convenient to use than the A-bike
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Old 10-22-08, 10:36 PM   #6
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I think you would be better off with a Xootr Scooter. It weighs under 4.5 kg and I would imagine would be more convenient to use than the A-bike
Agree big time, that thing looks like a piece of ... is like a bad breed between a folding bike + an inline skate.
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Old 10-23-08, 12:04 AM   #7
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i see this bike wheels are using the same rollerblade wheels or those razor scooter wheel. y even bother buying this when u can get rollerblades or a razor scooter for much cheaper?
+1 I have to say the kid makes a petty good point......
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Old 10-23-08, 02:35 AM   #8
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Pity it still ends with a Q mark.
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Pity it still ends with a Q mark.
But it's a question (Why even bother ...?), albeit a rhetorical one, so it has to end with a question mark. Sister Caroline, who taught me English grammar for many more years than I thought necessary, was very clear on this point.
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why backpack? Cause the food shop don't allow real bikes to be taken into the shop. But if I can hide it within a bag then they would not say anything. so it need to be
light enough to be carried on my back. Not every shop has "Cart" that can take a
bigger and more heavy bike like a Brompton. My Strida is too big to be hidden in a sac.
Weakling, it is the culture here on the Folding Bike forum to offer gratuitous advice whenever the occasion arises, and this will be no exception.

1. Convince the shop-manager to install a half dozen lockers large enough to accommodate a Strida or a Brompton, the kind of locker where you put coins into a slot. Pitch the idea as a break-even opportunity and possibly as a money-maker for the shop: it will be an eco-friendly act and good customer relations.

2. Save the money you would spend on another bike, and pay a kid to stand guard over your bike while you shop. You could lock the bike up as well. This guard duty would be an easy way for a youngster to earn some pocket money.

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P.S. Remember to add the weight of your groceries to your own when assessing the suitability of the bike.

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Old 10-23-08, 01:27 PM   #11
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Remember to add the weight of your groceries to your own when assessing the suitability of the bike.
Timo, You are right, I forgot about that one. I usually buy for some 4kg to 6 kg. so over 100kg all in all.

About the Minu125 next version

this text from G Ganio says it all?

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I am going hotter and hotter with that stiff bike
I guess he like adventure and challenges and he simply felt challenged to see
if it was possible to use such small wheels and still get something that works
even if not optimal seen from other point of views. I wish him luck.

Yes I have bought two cheap scooters to see if I can use them.
so maybe I do import a Xootr or a competing one. Razor whatever
avalable. They used to sell them here in Sweden but too few bought
so nobody is offering them now. I could have bought one three years ago
but I didn't feel confident about my balance so I hesitated and then they
stopped selling them.

My hopeless dream and I guess it is just a dream cause I am no inventor
but I hope one could take a Rollator like the Parade I linked to somewhere
and that one have almost identical in size wheels and same? polyuretan
low resistance rolling tires and make a transformer out of it.

when entering the shop it is an innocent looking rollator which is an aid
and as such allowed to enter and when leaving the shop it transforms
into a Xootr look alike scooter to kick ass on the pavement.


As I say. I have a dream.
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Old 10-23-08, 03:31 PM   #12
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Dude, just get a solid lock and park your bike outside. If you're really paranoid, get a cheap beater bike and a New York Fahgettaboudit.
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Old 10-23-08, 04:22 PM   #13
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I would recommend a Xootr Scooter and a bag pack for your personal items or shopping. With this combination you will be able to take any bus, train or tram will little difficulty and get better exercise than a bike. Max weight is 136 kg which gives you plenty of weight for shopping.

I just bought a Xootr this week and used it to go to the supermarket with my wife and daughter. They rode a trike and I was on the scooter. My wife tells me we averaged 14 km/h (9mph) according to the Cycle Analyst riding and I was going slower than I would on the scooter if I was traveling alone. I think by myself, I would be going about 17-18 km/h (11 mph).
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