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Old 08-20-07, 02:20 AM
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Any recommendations on fast 20" tires?

Hello all,

I just recently got my second folder. It's a Broadwalk D7 I believe. 7 speed forest green bike. Anyways I like to riding style I had on my last folder and want to get to that point with this bike. One of the first things I want to do is replace the tires with something fast. I'm not interested in a all weather tire as I live here in Southern California and I'll be riding just when it's dry. I'm looking for a tire that is at least 100 PSI. Also on my first folder I used a heavy duty inter tube for the back tire after getting one flat. That was my last flat in riding it about 2500 miles. I'll probably end up and put a heavy duty inter tube on the back wheel of this folder too.

So does anyone have a recommendation for replacement tires?
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IRC Metro. For the cost of a pair of these tires, you could spend the same amount (even more) on only 1 of the other guys' tires. This tire is fast, light, comfortable even at 100psi, and torture-tested by me on the unforgiving streets of downtown SF. While it may not have the puncture protection of the other more-expensive tires, mounting and dismounting this tire from the rim is a cinch, and with a heavy-duty tube, you shouldn't have any worries about flats.

If cash is not a consideration, I'd like to see you get a pair of the new Schwalbe Kojak tires.
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Originally Posted by IBB
So does anyone have a recommendation for replacement tires?
I have had some success with Stelvios during centuries. Including unofficial 100 mile days with the local cycling group and buds, I have done five this year on the Stelvios. Although I typically use Marathon Racers for ordinary riding which only have a 85 psi maximum but roll well. Moreover, if the roads are a little rough, I would say that the Racers roll better.

Both are folding tires which I like for traveling and touring.
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https://www.thorusa.com/dahon/accessories/tires.htm

maybe you gonna try a pair of the new kojaks..
yes they are pretty expensive indeed .....

I heard that some people like hookworms, maybe even a Kenda ...

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Originally Posted by brakemeister
[url]maybe you gonna try a pair of the new kojaks..
yes they are pretty expensive indeed .....
Can you talk your friends at Schwalbe into making them in 349?
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Continental make a h/p 120 psi 406mm tyre, very fast and long lasting...and narrow
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I'm about to pull the trigger on a pair of those Contis... fancy a shared buy, Steve? I have them down for US$26 each. Shipping should be quite reasonable if shared.
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Originally Posted by jur
I'm about to pull the trigger on a pair of those Contis... fancy a shared buy, Steve? I have them down for US$26 each. Shipping should be quite reasonable if shared.

Jur,

I'll email you later when I get home from work..9:30pm onwards.
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Originally Posted by stevegor
Continental make a h/p 120 psi 406mm tyre, very fast and long lasting...and narrow
Just watch out for those thin sidewalls; even rim pressure seems to wear them down.
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Originally Posted by mokaimo
james -

What is the max pressure printed on your Metros? Gaerlan and Bikepartsusa specs the max at 85#. In fact irctire.com doesn't even show the (older?) Metro, they only list a Metro II, and none in 20"...

Thinking of trying some to replace my low-pressure Marathon Slicks...don't think I need the puncture protection and I wanna go faster!
"Inflate to 100PSI"

At that pressure, they ride surprisingly smooth (compared to Primo Comets at the same pressure). At 85PSI, they ride nice and plush, but with only a little increase in rolling resistance.
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Originally Posted by mokaimo
Thanks James, I ordered a pair. I'm guessing the 1.35" tubes I'm using in the Marathons will work for the Metros...
Yup...I have 1.35 tubes in mine.
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Can you provide a link to the contis mentioned above? The Metros look pretty good, I assume the best deal you found was the link above? No one mentioned the Comets, no likey?
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The Comets are excellent, you can get them at Airbomb for around $22.
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Originally Posted by IBB
No one mentioned the Comets, no likey?
The Comets run like "concrete donuts", and the tread cuts/embeds debris easily. The 1.35 version is light and fast. The diameter is 18.75 inches, compared to the Metro which is 19 inches (you'll notice an overall reduction in your gearing, esp if you're running fixed/ss). The 1.50 version is heavy and sluggish. Both are pretty puncture resistant in their kevlar incarnations, but the tread is not durable (my 1.50 Comet lost a 1-inch section of tread that just peeled off the casing like an orange peel). Both tires are a pain to mount/dismount from the rim.
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Hello Jur, can you provide the link to the continentals you mentioned above? Sounds like a good price and I think I can get my local bike shop to match prices.
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They're at biketiresdirect.

https://www.biketiresdirect.com/produ...ction=ci_COGFM
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Originally Posted by james_swift
The Comets run like "concrete donuts", and the tread cuts/embeds debris easily. The 1.35 version is light and fast. The diameter is 18.75 inches, compared to the Metro which is 19 inches (you'll notice an overall reduction in your gearing, esp if you're running fixed/ss). The 1.50 version is heavy and sluggish. Both are pretty puncture resistant in their kevlar incarnations, but the tread is not durable (my 1.50 Comet lost a 1-inch section of tread that just peeled off the casing like an orange peel). Both tires are a pain to mount/dismount from the rim.
I have found mine pretty reliable both on trail and road.
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I can really recommend the CONTINENTAL SPORT CONTACT. They are light, slick, narrow, fast and bulletproof. I like the slim and plain S-line on the running surface. You can get them for 20" 406 and 451 and Continental gives some kind of warrenty: they will replace any of the faulty parts if you run a flat tire (when you use Continental Tubes as well).
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Originally Posted by zepi
I can really recommend the CONTINENTAL SPORT CONTACT. They are light, slick, narrow, fast and bulletproof. I like the slim and plain S-line on the running surface. You can get them for 20" 406 and 451 and Continental gives some kind of warrenty: they will replace any of the faulty parts if you run a flat tire (when you use Continental Tubes as well).
Zepi, Where are 451's sold? thanks!
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Zepi, Where are 451's sold? thanks!
ah sorry, my mistake. Only 406's. I had the impression that I have seen them in both 20" sizes. This page says somethig else.
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Get the CONTINENTAL SPORT CONTACTs and be done with that one.
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Excuse my ignorance, but why a high-pressure tire?
Don't they ride hard as a rock?
I am just guessing, as I usually let some air out of my low-pressure tires to eat some road jarring...
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Originally Posted by zepi
I can really recommend the CONTINENTAL SPORT CONTACT. They are light, slick, narrow, fast and bulletproof. I like the slim and plain S-line on the running surface. You can get them for 20" 406 and 451 and Continental gives some kind of warrenty: they will replace any of the faulty parts if you run a flat tire (when you use Continental Tubes as well).
I'd like to have had these tires, only I have a few issues:

-360gm is not what I consider light.
-The Conti rep told me that he doesn't recommend running these tires on rims with less than 19mm inside width. My Velocity rims have a ~22mm inside width, which means I'd have to go with the larger 32-406 (even heavier at 420gm).

I had Conti tires exclusively on my road bike, and they were practically indestructible (albeit heavy).
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Originally Posted by ontheroadagain
Excuse my ignorance, but why a high-pressure tire?
Don't they ride hard as a rock?
I am just guessing, as I usually let some air out of my low-pressure tires to eat some road jarring...
When I first started reading about R20s, Moultons, Birdys etc etc on Sheldons site I noticed he used a suspension fork on his 8 spd R20 to dampen road jarring. Now I'm not trying to be a hero or anything special, but I have used the HP Conti and Schwalbe Stevlio tyres in 406 and 451 sizes respectively and find that " road jarring " is not really an issue, it's what you get used to, and that was during the two years of recovering from a broken back. I might add that, the benefits of a hp tyre in terms of speed and cornering at speed, to me, far outweigh a wider, slower, squishier tyre that feels like a dead horse in terms of speed, cornering and acceleration. I think it's personal choice, I like hp, I like speed, others don't, horses for courses.
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I'd like to have had these tires, only I have a few issues:

-360gm is not what I consider light.
-The Conti rep told me that he doesn't recommend running these tires on rims with less than 19mm inside width. My Velocity rims have a ~22mm inside width, which means I'd have to go with the larger 32-406 (even heavier at 420gm).
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