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    Anyone know what kind of Raleigh folder this is?

    From my local CL ad
    http://chicago.craigslist.org/nch/bik/1050818690.html
    This is a great Vintage Raleigh Folding Bike. Measures 16" from crank to seat post. Great Vintage bike. All original. Needs new tires. Great bike. In good condition. Original paint is clean no dings no dents. Delivery is available. Asking $275


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    It sure doesn't look like a Twenty to me.
    Anyone? Thanks in advance.

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    Raleigh RSW 16. Definitely not worth $275, at ANY condition.
    Historically, these bikes were Raleigh's first response to Alex Moulton's small wheeled, full suspension bikes.



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    Yep, RSW-16 Compact, the folding model. Looks like it has a dynohub in the front wheel. They are very nice bikes, very comfortable to ride, and classy. Heavy, though.

    I agree, $275 is a bit steep. Hard to say how well it will clean up. I got one for my wife off ebay a few years ago; as I recall it was $4.55 plus $85 shipping. Did I mention they are heavy?

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    All 42 lbs of them !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diode100 View Post
    All 42 lbs of them !
    I was going to offer $200. Good thing I ask here first.
    Thanks for all the info, everyone!

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    Fun little bike...mine was around $100 off Fleabay and that included shipping. I have a dynohub for mine, just haven't gotten around to putting on the bike.

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    The reason the bike is slow is those heavy steel wheels. Go to alloy ones and it becomes light and fast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DVC45 View Post
    I was going to offer $200. Good thing I ask here first.
    Thanks for all the info, everyone!
    When I first got my wife's RSW-16, which doesn't fold, I liked it so much that I decided to get another one, a folding one, for myself. That was over three years ago. I searched a long time and never found one at a good price, and eventually gave up. So though the price on this one seems high, we must admit they are hard to find, and you cannot know whether you will find a better one or a cheaper one. So don't let me be the one who dissuades you from offering the nice man $200. At the very least, it will make my wife's more valuable!

    Quote Originally Posted by NormanF View Post
    The reason the bike is slow is those heavy steel wheels. Go to alloy ones and it becomes light and fast.
    Which brings us back to the age-old question, where do we source 16 x 1.5" aluminum rims with 28 spoke holes? Having posted on this subject many times, I will content myself by quoting David Bowie: "it ain't easy!"

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    A truly awful bike, my Aunt had one when I was a sprog, heavy, slow, handled like a blancmange! LOL! Not a collector's find IMHO!
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    RSW's are awesome - the only problem with them is the rare tire size.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mackerel View Post
    RSW's are awesome - the only problem with them is the rare tire size.
    Not really rare, but hard to find in the USofA. Schwalbe makes one, Raleigh has the Dunlop Redline replacements and Kenda makes one as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wahoonc View Post
    Not really rare, but hard to find in the USofA. Schwalbe makes one, Raleigh has the Dunlop Redline replacements and Kenda makes one as well.

    Aaron
    It's the cream colored Dunlops I want.
    It's the cream colored Dunlops I once had.
    The Schwalbes are nice (and that's what my RSW has now) but they do not look as good as the cream colored Dunlops.
    Beautiful cream colored Dunlops.

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    I have a different bike -- but I have the same question:- "what type of Raleigh folder is this?"

    Unfortunately, I haven't been able to figure out how to attach photos of my bike to this post. However, you can see the exactly the same type of bike on the Fixed Gear Gallery ("FGG") website at
    http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/2009...BrianChasm.htm


    I initially thought that my bike was a true Raleigh 20 because it is branded 'Raleigh Stowaway'. However, it doesn't look like any of the Raleigh 20s that I have seen on the web. The frame and the hinge mechanism are quite different.

    My bike has a three speed internally geared Shimano hub (not Sturmey Archer). It also has Raleigh branded saddle and tyres.

    I live in Perth, Western Australia, and the bike was a local 'find'. Because Perth is so far from the British and US bike markets, and because so many of the local bikes come from Asia, I now believe that my bike may be a Chinese or Taiwanese 20 inch folder that has been branded 'Raleigh' under some license arrangement.

    In any event, can someone please tell me what my bike is?

    I'm particularly interested in whether I will have to contend with the bottom bracket and head-set issues that are discussed on Sheldon Brown's Raleigh 20 web-page in the event I decide to 'hot-rod' it.

    Thanks in advance for your response.

    Cheers,
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    Last edited by Paul S; 03-29-09 at 07:41 AM.

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    42 lbs. [19 kg.] wow thats heavier than my Raleigh Shopper which i got down to 27 lbs [12kg.] and could even take it down further to around 24 lbs [11kg] if i really wanted too

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    I've found a picture of a bike that is absolutely identical to mine on the web:


    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_E_BOwdmFsH...20Stowaway.jpg

    But I still don't have any information as to:
    * whether it is a true Raleigh folder;
    * when it was made;
    * who made it; and
    * whether it has the bottom-bracket issues and head set issues that Sheldon Brown writes about.

    Any information would be greatly appreciated.

    Regards,
    Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul S View Post
    ...Any information would be greatly appreciated...
    From the look of it, I suspect your original guess was right-- it's a Japanese or Taiwanese made bike branded Raleigh by some marketing deal.

    My first guess on the date would be late 70's, early 80's; if it's a Shimano hub, I imagine there's a date code on there somewhere.

    I'm sure it's not Nottingham made, so it would have conventional BB threading; the fork threading may be less conventional.

    This is not the "Raleigh Twenty" frequently discussed here. Part of what Sheldon liked about twenties was the horizontal hinge, which is very stable and will last for ever. The bike you picture has a vertical hinge, which has a reputation as not as strong.

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