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Old 02-28-09, 01:52 PM   #1
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Update on my Yellow Citizen Tokyo - AWESOME ride.....

hi all,

just a quick update on my yellow citizen tokyo. for the past couple of days, the weather in sf bay area had been sunny so i was able to take my yellow tokyo for a spin around the block (first time) and i can say that this is a REALLY NICE bike for the price i paid ($100). the ride is solid and it feels like i am riding on an expensive bike (maybe not but...). just imagine what the ride will be on the dahon, carry me or birdy. i wish i had enough to buy them as now i got the folding bike bug. i guess i sure miss the fun i would have had if i had jumped on it much earlier. now everytime i have the chance i will jump on my bike and take a spin around the block. my wife is grinning ear to ear everytime she sees me as this is my only exercise (that's what she said). oh well a happy rider here with citizen bike. now if i can only fix the unshifting 6th gear then it will be a perfect purchase for me. on another thing - i may need to change the seat as this feels hard on me. any reco ? other than those 2 things - it's an AWESOME bike........... thanks for listening......

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Glad you are happy vmaniqui with your Citizen's folding bike. Don't worry about no dang Dahon or any other more expensive bike. Just enjoy your low cost folder since it works for you. My wife and I both ride Miami Citizens and are as happy as can be. I do want a Swift, but the time is just not right yet. We took our folders to the beach recently and had a great time. Great for riding the boardwalk by the beach.
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wish I could try one out. At 6'4", I fit well enough on a Curve that I've been saving for one for my bike/train commute to my teaching job, but by the time I have the cash, it'll be nearly summer and the school year will be over. The Citizens would be tempting, but the handlebars come up straight off the fork rather than canting forward as with the Dahons, so I doubt the Tokyo or even the Miami would fit.
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I'm so happy you finally got a chance to ride your Citizen. See, I told you it was a great little bike for the price.

For me, I've recently found the steering a little wobbly. Weird. I started noticing that I have to concentrate to keep the wheel straight. I think it was like this from the beginning but I didn't ride it enough to seriously take note of it. Well, I've been doing 16-24 miles (round trip) on it and it's really noticeable now.

I'm thinking it has something to do with the handlebar stem and the groove where you put in the handle bar. I think it might be off center...

Any thoughts or clues on how to fix it?
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wish I could try one out. At 6'4", I fit well enough on a Curve that I've been saving for one for my bike/train commute to my teaching job, but by the time I have the cash, it'll be nearly summer and the school year will be over. The Citizens would be tempting, but the handlebars come up straight off the fork rather than canting forward as with the Dahons, so I doubt the Tokyo or even the Miami would fit.
The Gotham & Miami bikes both state a "suggested" height of 4'8" - 6'3" and a max weight of 220 lbs. That's just an inch shorter than you. (I don't know how much you weight.) You should definitely give the folks at Citizen a call (they are very friendly and helpful) and ask them about sizing: (800) 682-9579 or email them.

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I bit the bullet and ordered a black Citizen Tokyo last night. Hope I like it as much as KitN and vic like theirs. I would have gone with a Downtube Mini or a Dahon Curve if I could justify twice the price. I may eventually save up and upgrade - IF this isn't just a mid-life crisis, an attempt to recapture my carefree college days, when I rode all over town on a Sears 5 speed.
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I bit the bullet and ordered a black Citizen Tokyo last night. Hope I like it as much as KitN and vic like theirs. I would have gone with a Downtube Mini or a Dahon Curve if I could justify twice the price. I may eventually save up and upgrade - IF this isn't just a mid-life crisis, an attempt to recapture my carefree college days, when I rode all over town on a Sears 5 speed.
Congrats! I'd love to see pictures of your black Tokyo when you get it!

I was considering the DT Mini and the Dahon Curve but my previous folder had just been stolen (the day after Xmas) and I needed a bike BADLY! I might upgrade to a Dahon or even a Brompton or Tikit but that will have to wait until I've outgrown this bike and saved a good deal of cash for the purchase.

Please keep us updated on your Tokyo. I look forward to finding out how you like it.
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I was considering the DT Mini and the Dahon Curve but my previous folder had just been stolen (the day after Xmas) and I needed a bike BADLY! I might upgrade to a Dahon or even a Brompton or Tikit but that will have to wait until I've outgrown this bike and saved a good deal of cash for the purchase.
Why? Given the reviews of the citizen if my Downtube ever gets stolen I'd totally downgrade.

However, that derailleur will have to go. They're pointless for city riding, especially cheap ones. People like to knock the Sturmey Archer 8-speed, but even from the start it shifted better than a derailleur and the more mine gets broken in the smoother it gets.
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I'm so happy you finally got a chance to ride your Citizen. See, I told you it was a great little bike for the price.

For me, I've recently found the steering a little wobbly. Weird. I started noticing that I have to concentrate to keep the wheel straight. I think it was like this from the beginning but I didn't ride it enough to seriously take note of it. Well, I've been doing 16-24 miles (round trip) on it and it's really noticeable now.

I'm thinking it has something to do with the handlebar stem and the groove where you put in the handle bar. I think it might be off center...

Any thoughts or clues on how to fix it?

kitn,
when the handle bar post is dropped there is a hex screw, loosen this and you can freely move the handle post. another place you might concentrate is the nut between the fork and the handle post. this one is big that you might need a wrench. let me know if that works.

yes. our tokyo is worth it's price. too bad that there is this one lady who is selling hers including the bag for only $100. new as in ridden just 5 times.
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I bit the bullet and ordered a black Citizen Tokyo last night. Hope I like it as much as KitN and vic like theirs. I would have gone with a Downtube Mini or a Dahon Curve if I could justify twice the price. I may eventually save up and upgrade - IF this isn't just a mid-life crisis, an attempt to recapture my carefree college days, when I rode all over town on a Sears 5 speed.
congrats. let us know how it goes. and send pics too....
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Great. Post pics as soon as you can. Don't get discouraged if you have to do a little fine tuning to the bike when you get it in. I took both of ours to a local shop as soon as I got them in and haven't regreted spending the $30 for one minute. Both ride like fine clockwork. However, maybe yours will come in perfect.
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i guess i might need to bite the bullet too and have my citizen tokyo fix by my LBS. since i bought it used i had this gear issue. although they are charging me $35 i think i might as well do it. i had tried everything in fixing this issue and yet it won't go to sixth gear. i called citizen and they can't help me as they need the receipt for the bike. oh well - that's the case in buying used ones....

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Adjusting gears is rather simple but needs to be learned... see parktool.com.
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thanks a lot jur. i will try that and if still doesn't work i will let you know....

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The New Arrival

Here is what was waiting for me when I got home from work this evening. Haven't had time to unpack it yet.
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nice...pls send pics of assembled bike and let us know how the ride goes for you. hopefully you'll have fun...
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Nice, JCFlack! I can't wait to see pictures of it fully assembled!
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... People like to knock the Sturmey Archer 8-speed, but even from the start it shifted better than a derailleur and the more mine gets broken in the smoother it gets.
Well, I know I complain about it, but not because I enjoy complaining! I much prefer the SA-8 to a Nexus-8; the evenly spaced gears allow for much more efficient (and pleasant) pedaling, and the overdrive gearing is perfect for 16" wheels. So the hub has issues; it was right to discuss them (and how to deal with them); and I hope they've been fixed by now. If I get a Tokyo, I'll slap a SA-8 on it pdq, probably before even riding it.
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update & pics

Hurry up JCFlack!
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hmmm. i wonder what's keeping JCFlack....we're eagerly awaiting for your pics and updates on the ride...
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Wednesday is choir night, so I didn't start assembly and set up until this afternoon. Had a few problems - it has been a while since I've worked on a bike. The biggest problem was that the pin that holds the bike unfolded at the hinge was sticking. Hard to get it to fall into the hole that locks the bike in unfolded position, and if you did, it took a light tap with a hammer to get it unlocked. After fooling with it for a half hour, I finally figured out that the upper socket that holds the pin was crooked. I took a small monkey wrench and very carefully bent it a little until the pin went up and down freely like it is supposed to. Problem solved.

Minor problem - the bell was missing the screw that holds it on the handlebars, Wonder what size screw I need. Never mind - I have a light that I plan to put on the bike (we bought it for one of our two sons years ago - never got put on the bike - still in the box) and it has a horn,

So I got everything unpacked and - no bike ride today - I don't have the right tool to tighten the hand brakes in position. Looks like it needs a hex headed screwdriver-like tool, Anybody know what it is called, and what size? Also, the front wheel is rubbing the front brake a little on every revolution. I either have to adjust the brake a bit or the wheel spokes - not sure which, If the spokes, I need a spoke wrench. I WAS going to take it to the LBS for a pre-ride tuneup, but after calling for some prices, I decided to try to get it in riding condition myself. I am obviously going to have to invest in some tools.

I'll post some photos later this evening.

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Wednesday is choir night, so I didn't start assembly and set up until this afternoon. Had a few problems - it has been a while since I've worked on a bike. The biggest problem was that the pin that holds the bike unfolded at the hinge was sticking. Hard to get it to fall into the hole that locks the bike in unfolded position, and if you did, it took a light tap with a hammer to get it unlocked. After fooling with it for a half hour, I finally figured out that the upper socket that holds the pin was crooked. I took a small monkey wrench and very carefully bent it a little until the pin went up and down freely like it is supposed to. Problem solved.

glad you were able to fix this one. i had the same issue and after going thru a lot of guessing games we were able to figure out the solution - you need to make sure that when you unfold the handle post it should be facing the front. maybe yours is different and bent.

Minor problem - the bell was missing the screw that holds it on the handlebars, Wonder what size screw I need. Never mind - I have a light that I plan to put on the bike (we bought it for one of our two sons years ago - never got put on the bike - still in the box) and it has a horn,

how come mine didn't come with the horn. i should have asked the previous owner. anyway i also installed a Cateye head light on mine so maybe no need for a horn.

So I got everything unpacked and - no bike ride today - I don't have the right tool to tighten the hand brakes in position. Looks like it needs a hex headed screwdriver-like tool, Anybody know what it is called, and what size? Also, the front wheel is rubbing the front brake a little on every revolution. I either have to adjust the brake a bit or the wheel spokes - not sure which, If the spokes, I need a spoke wrench. I WAS going to take it to the LBS for a pre-ride tuneup, but after calling for some prices, I decided to try to get it in riding condition myself. I am obviously going to have to invest in some tools.

I'll post some photos later this evening.
you're keeping us in suspense mode. same thing with my bike. my LBS is charging me about $35 for a tune up, so i decided to try it myself. by the way we're still waiting for your pics....

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hi all,

quick update. i was planning on taking a 15 minute spin with my citizen tokyo and ended up with more than an hour of back ride around the block. weather was so nice (sunny with some breeze) that i totally forgot the time. would have gone further but need to do some stuff inside the house. anyway as a new update - I was able to fix my 6th gear issue. now it's going to all the gears (1-6 gears). i kept on shifting and shifting to make sure that it is really fixed. maybe that's the reason why i had so much fun riding it today. the issue with the gear was one of the 2 screws that lock the position of the chain was fixed at 5th gear. so i just have to re-adjust it so the chain when shifted will go to the 6th gear. small issue but it took me awhile to figure it out. now if i can just get a new seat as this one is killing my b....t. seat is so uncomfortable for long hours of ride. anyone had a good recommendation for a comfortable seat ???

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