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duke_of_hazard 05-03-09 04:45 PM

detachable rear basket?
 
I have been using this rear basket for the past two years:

http://www.amazon.com/Wald-Folding-B.../dp/B000BPNK7O

It has bulletproof strength and carries high loads with no problem. But it does add quite a bit of extra weight to the bicycle and I only use it a third of the time I bike. Are there any detachable baskets as equally strong?

MichaelW 05-03-09 05:52 PM

Rixen and Kaul rear carrier detachable basket plate.

wahoonc 05-03-09 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by duke_of_hazard (Post 8847231)
I have been using this rear basket for the past two years:

http://www.amazon.com/Wald-Folding-B.../dp/B000BPNK7O

It has bulletproof strength and carries high loads with no problem. But it does add quite a bit of extra weight to the bicycle and I only use it a third of the time I bike. Are there any detachable baskets as equally strong?

Somebody (Topeak?) makes a whole line of baskets and racks that have an intergal locking system that allows you to remove it when you don't need it leaving just the rack. The other option might be the soft side open top "shopping panniers" They will hold a standard grocery sack like the folding baskets.

Aaron:)

havm66z 05-17-09 06:37 PM

There is this thread on the Dahon forums. http://www.dahon.com/forum/index.php?&showtopic=5780

Example picture
http://img.skitch.com/20090208-nkmut...6si1q9yagr.jpg

Urbanis 08-31-10 10:27 AM

Reviving this thread--I'm kind of intrigued by getting a rear basket as it can be more versatile than a pannier for throwing stuff into, but for folding, weight, and versatility reasons I don't always want/need it attached to my bike (a Xootr Swift). I have found two general quick-release baskets: Public Rear Basket and the Kettler Rear Bicycle Basket. I ordered the Public basket but unfortunately it doesn't work on my rack (the otherwise excellent Dahon Traveller Rear Rack) because the basket latching mechanism requires the rack platform rails to be parallel whereas mine taper from the rear to the front (i.e., the top platform is more of a wedge than a rectangle).

One solution is to change my rear rack to a rectangular platform design but finding rear racks that work with the Swift can be a challenge--the arms that attach to the seat stays need to have enough space between them for the thick seatpost to pass through when folding. Also, the Dahon rack is a quality rack and an expensive rack; I would be annoyed to have to change it, and I don't want to shell out for a Tubus ($187--yikes!). The TorTec Expedition Alloy Rear Rack has the kind of robust touring design I like but shipping from the UK is absolutely a killer ($47 was one quote)--why does it seem that so many practical commuter accessories are only available in Europe?! For example, I had to order my Ortlieb Shuttle from the UK a few years ago, although it now appears to have US distributors. But perhaps I could settle on a TorTec Ultralite Rear Rack, which is only $24 shipping from the UK.

Topeak has a detachable rear basket but it requires using their proprietary rack and mounting system. The larger point is that I'd rather not change my rack unless absolutely necessary.

So now I'm thinking that perhaps the solution would be to get a Wald wire basket and use two velcro one-wraps to attach it to the top of the rear rack for (reasonably) quick mounting and dismounting. To make it even more versatile, perhaps I could get a folding bicycle basket (normally mounted on the side), so that it could be removed and collapsed when not in use (love this idea). Would velcro straps would be a reasonably secure attachment? Or would using a couple of bungee cords to secure the basket to the rack do the trick?

Thoughts?

Abneycat 08-31-10 12:46 PM

Axiom makes baskets that have spring clips and just grab whatever rack you put them on. I personally think they're pretty good. I can confirm that the wire mesh and wicker versions will fit a Dahon Arc rack.

Urbanis 08-31-10 01:00 PM

Hey Abneycat, thanks for the lead. The Axiom Rear Shopping Basket Pannier might do the trick. Unfortunately, the baskets with the spring clips won't work on my rack because they require a rectangular platform (so both arms of each clip can grip the side rail). My rear rack has a tapered (wedge) shape.

mulleady 08-31-10 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Urbanis (Post 11388259)
Hey Abneycat, thanks for the lead. The Axiom Rear Shopping Basket Pannier might do the trick. Unfortunately, the baskets with the spring clips won't work on my rack because they require a rectangular platform (so both arms of each clip can grip the side rail). My rear rack has a tapered (wedge) shape.

Just get a Brompton much better luggage carrying capacity lol :P

fietsbob 08-31-10 01:58 PM

Brompton has a front basket that pops right off, using their frame clip as a mount..

Cordura Fabric and Aluminum . its their lowest cost front bag too..

I got their touring bag instead .. ;)

Abneycat 08-31-10 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Urbanis (Post 11388259)
Hey Abneycat, thanks for the lead. The Axiom Rear Shopping Basket Pannier might do the trick.

If you are into that kind of thing, I would highly recommend checking out the Jandd grocery bag pannier as well. It has the ability to pack down, but it is supported by a strut system and it is nearly as rigid and robust as a wire mesh basket when open. It's a good balance in between having a rigid side basket, and a floppy grocery side bag. That's what i'm currently using, it's worth taking a look at in my opinion.

fwd-bwd 08-31-10 06:49 PM

Urbanis, since you own a Swift, why don't you consider the excellent Xootr CrossRack? There are several advantages:

- Unlike many folding bike racks, it is full-sized.

- As a result, it accepts almost all panniers, shoppers, and baskets (such as the aforementioned Axiom "Bagsket") designed for conventional racks.

- The quick release mechanism allows you to remove the rack when not in use, thus reducing weight.

- Not a proprietary system

- No heel or ground clearance issue

- Better balance due to center load

- Reduced wind resistance (not that I care :D)

I have it installed on my Strida. If anyone's interested I'll take a few pictures this weekend and post them here.

A similar product that you may consider is Basil BasEasy Carrier Rack. It affords less weight (5kg vs. 10kg) but its proprietary quick release mechanism is more elegant and accepting various Basil baskets and bags.

Urbanis 08-31-10 07:21 PM

Hi fwd-bwd, thanks for your suggestion. I'm pretty happy with the Dahon Traveller Rear Rack--it is robust and capable, non-proprietary and able to take full-size panniers, and doesn't interfere with the folding mechanism. True, it doesn't have a quick release like the CrossRack; on the other hand, it doesn't hang off the seatpost either.

BluePlate55 09-02-10 09:24 AM

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I just ordered the rattan detachable rear basket from Eleven81. Here's a picture:
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=168004
I have the Citizen Bike Barcelona, and I'm hoping that this basket matches the front one that came attached to my bike. I'd never heard of these kinds of rear baskets that clamp onto the rack until I found this thread, so thanks everyone! My main concern is whether it'll clamp on firmly enough. I plan to fill it with a lot of stuff, and as much as I want it to match the look and style of the front basket (which is wonderfully sturdy--almost too sturdy, actually, in that it's a pain to take on and off!), I'll take function over form and return it if it doesn't work. I'll let you know what I think!

Urbanis 09-20-10 04:03 PM

Thread update: I got a Wald 582 folding rear bicycle basket which attaches quickly and easily via bungee cord to the top of my rear rack. The nice thing is, I can take it off and fold it up when not using it. I haven't tested it loaded on the road yet, but I spotted a woman today with a milk crate bungeed to her folding bike's rear rack. It was loaded with groceries. I asked her about it and she said it was a great cargo solution for her--she hasn't had any problems with slippage. So I'm optimistic this approach will work.

BikeKraft 09-22-10 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by BluePlate55 (Post 11399113)
I just ordered the rattan detachable rear basket from Eleven81. Here's a picture:
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=168004
I have the Citizen Bike Barcelona, and I'm hoping that this basket matches the front one that came attached to my bike. I'd never heard of these kinds of rear baskets that clamp onto the rack until I found this thread, so thanks everyone! My main concern is whether it'll clamp on firmly enough. I plan to fill it with a lot of stuff, and as much as I want it to match the look and style of the front basket (which is wonderfully sturdy--almost too sturdy, actually, in that it's a pain to take on and off!), I'll take function over form and return it if it doesn't work. I'll let you know what I think!


Picture please when you get it!

2_i 09-22-10 10:03 AM

My wife wanted a detachable rear basket and we have been through 2 systems. First one was Pletscher involving a proprietary rack, a basket plate and a hefty price. In critical situations, with load in the basket, the basket would detach itself from the rack and fly off with the load. In addition, the locking spring would deform and cease to lock no matter what the circumstances. At late stages of this system, my wife used a bungee cord as mentioned in other posts. Thereafter we have gone with this Basil basket:

http://www.basil.nl/producten/11143L.jpg

The basket has a grip at the bottom that grabs the rack from two sides. There is even a plastic key for the grip. This one works OK. I believe that Basil has several baskets that come with this particular grip and they may also have some variations of the grip itself.

folder fanatic 09-22-10 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Urbanis (Post 11388259)
Hey Abneycat, thanks for the lead. The Axiom Rear Shopping Basket Pannier[/URL] might do the trick. Unfortunately, the baskets with the spring clips won't work on my rack because they require a rectangular platform (so both arms of each clip can grip the side rail). My rear rack has a tapered (wedge) shape.

I am getting the feeling that you don't want to change your rack. I agree that it is usually better (and cheaper) if you stick with the one that it came with the bike or a basic one from a LBS.

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Originally Posted by fietsbob (Post 11388701)
Brompton has a front basket that pops right off, using their frame clip as a mount..

Cordura Fabric and Aluminum . its their lowest cost front bag too..

I got their touring bag instead .. ;)

I have a Brompton too. I really like their QR system with a luggage block and a nice selection of bags to go with it. I find it so handy.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urbanis (Post 11390397)
Hi fwd-bwd, thanks for your suggestion. I'm pretty happy with the Dahon Traveller Rear Rack--it is robust and capable, non-proprietary and able to take full-size panniers, and doesn't interfere with the folding mechanism. True, it doesn't have a quick release like the CrossRack; on the other hand, it doesn't hang off the seatpost either.....So now I'm thinking that perhaps the solution would be to get a Wald wire basket and use two velcro one-wraps to attach it to the top of the rear rack for (reasonably) quick mounting and dismounting. To make it even more versatile, perhaps I could get a folding bicycle basket (normally mounted on the side), so that it could be removed and collapsed when not in use (love this idea). Would velcro straps would be a reasonably secure attachment? Or would using a couple of bungee cords to secure the basket to the rack do the trick?

Thoughts?

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Originally Posted by Urbanis (Post 11495933)
Thread update: I got a Wald 582 folding rear bicycle basket which attaches quickly and easily via bungee cord to the top of my rear rack. The nice thing is, I can take it off and fold it up when not using it. I haven't tested it loaded on the road yet, but I spotted a woman today with a milk crate bungeed to her folding bike's rear rack. It was loaded with groceries. I asked her about it and she said it was a great cargo solution for her--she hasn't had any problems with slippage. So I'm optimistic this approach will work.

As far as your ideas for a Velcro strap to secure your new basket, that is a very good idea. Providing that your straps are not too loose, they will secure very well if completely pressed together, release or tie up faster than bungee cords, plus have the option to be washable if you use the "Sew In" Velcro ones along with a washable Webbing for the strap(s) (all available at a good fabric store). If you don't want to sew it yourself for any reason, you can have a local tailor or seamstress quickly sew it up for you for little cost.

BluePlate55 09-22-10 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BikeKraft (Post 11505131)
Picture please when you get it!

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=170862

Here it is, attached to the back rack! It's a bit darker than it looked in the picture online, so it's not an exact match with the front basket that came attached, but the material and the weave are very similar, so I feel like the overall look works.

The clamp is quite solid, though the basket does have some movement. It came with a velcro strap so that I could add additional support, and while it increases the on/off time, I'm using it so far.

No complaints yet! It holds my tote bags perfectly. I could see getting a mesh bungee to go over it, though. The single strap I have holds a bag down, but likely wouldn't help with a whole basket of stuff. :)

fietsbob 09-22-10 10:23 PM

Klick fix has a seat post bracket, so you can mount one of their handlebar baskets onto the back with that set.

Urbanis 09-23-10 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by folder fanatic (Post 11507805)
I am getting the feeling that you don't want to change your rack. I agree that it is usually better (and cheaper) if you stick with the one that it came with the bike or a basic one from a LBS.

Hey Folder Fanatic, yes, it's true I don't want to change my rear rack (which I acquired separately from the bike). Partly out of inertia, partly because I paid a pretty penny for it ($80), and mostly because I think it is robust and really well designed for my needs. For example, it has a lower set of rails beneath the platform on which I can attach my u-lock, so that the platform remains clear for other items. I also like the integrated rear light mounting plate. Also, it works very well with my Xootr Swift, and the bike's design is such that not all rear racks play nicely with it, because there needs to be sufficient room between the rack arms (that attach to the rear stays) so that the thick seatpost can fit between them in the folded position.

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Originally Posted by folder fanatic (Post 11507805)
As far as your ideas for a Velcro strap to secure your new basket, that is a very good idea. Providing that your straps are not too loose, they will secure very well if completely pressed together, release or tie up faster than bungee cords, plus have the option to be washable if you use the "Sew In" Velcro ones along with a washable Webbing for the strap(s) (all available at a good fabric store). If you don't want to sew it yourself for any reason, you can have a local tailor or seamstress quickly sew it up for you for little cost.

Hm, great suggestion! I tried using the velcro straps to wrap them around the basket and rack, which was not a tight fit. It didn't occur to me to try pressing them together instead. The bungee solution seemed satisfactory, but I'll try this approach to see if it works better.


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