buying sight unseen....not easy
Hi, This first post is in desperation in trying to deside which folder to buy....within limits. I just sold a Electra Townie 7 speed (Nexus hub), which was a nice bike but turned out to big of a bike for my 5'7" frame.
Been decades between bikes and looking to get a folder, thinking it would be easier to handle. Being 61 and have bad arthritis, I need exercise on my good days but not to cause a lot of stress on the joints. That said, it's just not worth it to spend big bucks. Lets say under $500. Can is my limit, but less is better. The Downtube line is out once the exchange rate and shipping are added. The Dahon line is limited up here lowest is the Speed D7 is $575. plus tax....bummer. Miele RX-20 is $399, but seems like a bike building sideline, they make washers, etc. In short there are just to many makers to make a educated decision from the web and shops are to far away.....no car. Would like 3 speeds or more, 20" tires, able to fold and in one piece...means don't have to take it apart to fold it down. Thanks for any advice, John |
500 CAD or USD?
Downtube 8H is $389+$80 shipping to Canada and would be perfect. |
Check Craigslist where you live for a decent folder. In Toronto http://toronto.en.craigslist.ca/tor/bik/1165000913.html
http://toronto.en.craigslist.ca/tor/bik/1137033369.html |
Limit is $500. Canadian dollars, so most bikes out of U.S. is beyond my limit. With a disability pension to live on saving for more of a bike is very hard to do.
Might have to look for a used one. Thanks. |
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Buy a Schwinn Tango from Canadiantire.ca and spend $65 to get it tuned up at a local bike store.
http://tinyurl.com/q2e86o |
Options
John,
Your budget limits your options, but there's hope. Consider a Dahon P8; it mght fill your needs. What and where is your arthritis? We're the same age. My arthritis is primarily in my thumbs/wrists, but ergonomic bar ends make a huge difference. Flat bars are painful, but moving to bar ends relieves significant stress. Takes some time to get used to them, since hands there mean a movement to brakes and shifter. For what it's worth... |
Originally Posted by HGR3inOK
(Post 8907927)
Here are a couple:
http://montreal.en.craigslist.ca/bik/1135206816.html http://toronto.en.craigslist.ca/drh/bik/1112636385.html John |
Originally Posted by puppypilgrim
(Post 8908276)
Buy a Schwinn Tango from Canadiantire.ca and spend $65 to get it tuned up at a local bike store.
http://tinyurl.com/q2e86o Safety issue...if weld breaks it would not be pretty. John |
Originally Posted by DLW
(Post 8908708)
John,
Your budget limits your options, but there's hope. Consider a Dahon P8; it mght fill your needs. What and where is your arthritis? We're the same age. My arthritis is primarily in my thumbs/wrists, but ergonomic bar ends make a huge difference. Flat bars are painful, but moving to bar ends relieves significant stress. Takes some time to get used to them, since hands there mean a movement to brakes and shifter. For what it's worth... Whatever bike I get I'll revise the bars and maybe seat for my ergonomics. Thanks, John |
Originally Posted by merky
(Post 8909061)
Here a P8 is about $1,000....Rheumatoid arthritis and in all joints. One reason for the bike....keep moving.
Whatever bike I get I'll revise the bars and maybe seat for my ergonomics. Thanks, John I found a very nice 2004 Speed P8 on Craigslist for less than US$300. I have had it for a week, and I am very pleased with it. I have ridden it more in the past week than I have ridden the bike it is replacing in the past 10 months. I may swap out the handlebars to bring the grips a little closer. I plan to wait 30 days before making any changes. Have you checked www.thorusa.com? I think he can ship to Canada. You might be able to get a new Dahon Eco D7 within your budget. |
Originally Posted by HGR3inOK
(Post 8910495)
Sounds like we have some of the same issues. I'm 58, 5'7", 155 lbs. with back, neck and shoulder issues. I need a fairly upright riding position. None of the Dahon dealers in my area carry any bikes in stock. The only "Dahon-design" bikes that I was able to diddle with were the low-end models at Camping World. You probably want to avoid the Dahons and similar bikes with a single-piece handlepost/handle bar.
I found a very nice 2004 Speed P8 on Craigslist for less than US$300. I have had it for a week, and I am very pleased with it. I have ridden it more in the past week than I have ridden the bike it is replacing in the past 10 months. I may swap out the handlebars to bring the grips a little closer. I plan to wait 30 days before making any changes. Have you checked www.thorusa.com? I think he can ship to Canada. You might be able to get a new Dahon Eco D7 within your budget. Thanks for the link to thorusa, I'll email them and ask about shipping to me and see what answers I'll get. I'm going to the same with Downtube, they are close in price on their cheeper models. I really like the front and rear suspension so my joints don't feel the bumps in the road as much. |
Dahon on craigslist
Merky, Have you seen this posting from craigslist?
http://toronto.en.craigslist.ca/tor/bik/1169041530.html I wonder if the pannier & rear rack is included. Bike + accessories look like in decent condition & not a bad price. No suspension though. |
Ingenious theory: Fight arthritis with belt drive
Forgot to pose a question that I've been thinking on & off (esp during those "spaced out" moments waiting for the bus or taking shower...you get the idea) and the mention of RA in this posting reminded me of it.
Anyways, do you think there's some type of benefit for people with RA or other joint challenges to ride on a bike with a belt drive versus a conventional chain drive train? Initially I thought the answer was an obvious "NO" but as I thought more about it, I could be on to something...even if it's a small difference. My theory is that there is less shock to the knee when riding a bike with a belt drive drive train because of the shock that belt can absorb. Won't be significant but who knows - over many miles of riding, it can add up, right?? =D |
Originally Posted by merky
(Post 8914426)
...I really like the front and rear suspension so my joints don't feel the bumps in the road as much.
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The Schwalbe Big Apples tires as really comfortable and fast too. Highly recommended.
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Originally Posted by ChainlessRev
(Post 8922138)
Forgot to pose a question that I've been thinking on & off (esp during those "spaced out" moments waiting for the bus or taking shower...you get the idea) and the mention of RA in this posting reminded me of it.
Anyways, do you think there's some type of benefit for people with RA or other joint challenges to ride on a bike with a belt drive versus a conventional chain drive train? Initially I thought the answer was an obvious "NO" but as I thought more about it, I could be on to something...even if it's a small difference. My theory is that there is less shock to the knee when riding a bike with a belt drive drive train because of the shock that belt can absorb. Won't be significant but who knows - over many miles of riding, it can add up, right?? =D The thing about RA is that it's the worst type of arthritis, it can and will put you in a wheel chair if you give in to the pain and don't keep moving. Morphine pills helps...:lol: To answer your question, a belt drive from what I've seen in my searching is one speed and that could be a problem coming to a hill and working the knee's harder put's strain on the joints.That's why I'm looking for different speeds, weather cogs or a internal hub. I had a Nexus 7 speed in one bike and that was sweet. No chain jumping off, just smooth shifting. see ya |
Originally Posted by HGR3inOK
(Post 8922256)
Merky - My understanding is that a set of Schwalbe Big Apples can noticeably soften the ride on a 20" Dahon. You might check the Aviners to see what tires they have. The Schwalbe Marathon Slicks on my Speed P8 ride okay at 75 psi. But I expect I'll probably switch to Big Apples at some point.
check this link for Big Apple specs...... http://bigapplebikes.com/gbl/en/bicy...bPoint=On+Tour see ya |
Originally Posted by merky
(Post 8923367)
BTW, CR thanks for the link.....emailed owner but has not returned email....yet.
The thing about RA is that it's the worst type of arthritis, it can and will put you in a wheel chair if you give in to the pain and don't keep moving. Morphine pills helps...:lol: To answer your question, a belt drive from what I've seen in my searching is one speed and that could be a problem coming to a hill and working the knee's harder put's strain on the joints.That's why I'm looking for different speeds, weather cogs or a internal hub. I had a Nexus 7 speed in one bike and that was sweet. No chain jumping off, just smooth shifting. see ya Thx to internal hubs, belt drive bikes now have more than one speed. Ixi (www.ixibike.com) and our Abio (www.abiobikes.com) have 4 speed Nexus. Keep us posted what you end up getting! |
Originally Posted by HGR3inOK
(Post 8910495)
You probably want to avoid the Dahons and similar bikes with a single-piece handlepost/handle bar.
http://www.velo-de-ville.de/pics_kaufberatung/city.jpg |
Originally Posted by ChainlessRev
(Post 8927796)
Ah RA sucks! My aunt (and maybe my mom too - hereditary) is starting to getting some signs of RA - too early to say but can tell she's very uncomfy.
Thx to internal hubs, belt drive bikes now have more than one speed. Ixi (www.ixibike.com) and our Abio (www.abiobikes.com) have 4 speed Nexus. Keep us posted what you end up getting! Anyway, AAAAAh, I didn't think of belt drives and internal hubs....dummy me. It's logical that a bike set up like that would shift very smooth, I've searched out so many bikes it's mind blowing....and that's just folders. |
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Originally Posted by pibach
(Post 8928462)
Geometry of the Dahon bikes is already quite upright (much too upright for me anyway). The single piece posts have the advantage to be stiffer. You can easily change out the handlebar for some comfort bar you like, e.g., something like this:
http://www.velo-de-ville.de/pics_kaufberatung/city.jpg |
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