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    Xootr Swift vs. Novara Flyby Shuttle?

    Which would you choose? I am 6'1" 195 lbs. and ride all year round in Boston weather.

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    Is folded size or ride quality more important to you?

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    Ride quality is more important, also the ability to replace parts as they wear out due to road salt and wet conditions. Folding size is not an issue as both would work for the commuter trains I take. Thanks for replying.

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    I've only had experience with the Swift, but one of it's strong suits is that uses standard parts throughout (more or less). The other thing to consider is it will happily take an internal gear hub, handy if you are going to be riding in mucky conditions on a regular basis.

    Very stiff frame which rides nicely, if a little harsh.

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    Thanks for the reply. I like the versatility of the Swift frame and that it uses standard parts. I like the internal gear hub on the flyby shuttle for low maintenance in bad weather conditions. I also like the swift for its gear ratio, it seems it would be a faster ride than the flyby. I could always replace the Swift drive train with an internal gear hub after I wear out the original cassette.

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    You can also order a frameset from Peter and use the money you saved to build a wheel with an IGH. I got a quote from him for $420 about a month ago. It includes the frame (aluminum), riser, and seatpost.

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    Or, on that note, Peter himself can build you a custom one with an IGH. You'll probably pay around $800-900.

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    I think you can also get framesets from Xootr now as well.

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    does this help in making your choice?:
    http://www.injuryhelpnetwork.com/nov...icycle-recall/
    IRO Mark V Pro, home made bamboo track bike, eddy merckx corsa extra, Airnimal Joey, UGADA Tikit

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    Thank you all for your responses.

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    Swift. Definitely, for the ride. Get a thudbuster while you're at it...not getting one is my one regret (aside from fold size) about the bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiapasFixed View Post
    does this help in making your choice?:
    http://www.injuryhelpnetwork.com/nov...icycle-recall/
    dahon is actively recalling and fixing all those bikes affected by this recall. once the handlepost is fixed then you should be ok. even if you bought one with this issue you can just bring the bike to your POP and they will fix it free of charge. so this shouldn't make or break your decision. i was at an REI one time and they had this flyby for less than $600 or $500. and i can say that if i didn't have folders, this will be one bike on top of my list. i like how it looks (except the paint).

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    Quote Originally Posted by mlau View Post
    Swift. Definitely, for the ride. Get a thudbuster while you're at it...not getting one is my one regret (aside from fold size) about the bike.
    I do not own a Swift, but badly want one.

    Here is an alternate opinion about a Swift and a Thudbuster:
    http://www.dahon.com/forum/index.php...ndpost&p=45896

    Jur Dec 11 08:
    I have an interesting perspective.

    I put a Thudbuster LT on my Raleigh 20 and it was wonderful. I could stop worrying about bumps and concentrate on riding. I got 2 at the same time and the other one went on my wife's bike. Similar odes to joy were sung.

    Then just for the heck of it I installed one of them on my Xootr Swift. And took it off immediately again after just a short ride. The Swift is my stiff, light, go-fast bike and the TB basically somehow ruined the ride. Had I bought it for the Swift I might have ended up selling again. Sometimes combinations just work and sometimes... they suck.

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    I am 186cm / 96kg and ride a Mu XL Sport with 20x2,35" Big Apples. This combination works really well for big & heavy riders. You could get even more stability by changing the handlepost (e.g. for the single piece left folding one on the Mu Uno) or do an ahead stem conversion. I did MTB racing years ago, still ride my folder with bunnyhops over curbs etc, works ok with some care on soft landing.

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    Thanks for all replys. I ended up buying the Flyby Shuttle at REI for 589.00 dollars. I also used an REI dividend I had towards the purchase. I added SKS fenders. THis bike is to replace my 4 year old Giant Halfway. So far I really love the 7 speed internal hub, it shifts smoothly and gives a feeling of confidence. I think it will come in handy maintenance wise given that I ride in rain and slushy winter conditions. The frame seems very solid also. So far I am happy with my choice.

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