Packing for a move and am cleaning, working on, and folding all the bikes up for transport. To my surprise the Speed TR folded up with all kinds of junk hanging off of it. Coffee mug holder, seat bag, and most surprising was the Ortlieb bar bag. I wouldn't in a million years have thought it would fold. It barely touches and the magnets engage fine.
It's settled. I'm sending this bike in my express shipment rather than the Speed P8.