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    nexus inter-4 hub gear wheel removal?

    I have a new Mezzo I4. In the service manual they refer to Shimano tech. service doc. SI-6E60A for the correct procedure for disconnecting the shifting cable in order to remove the rear wheel. Trouble is I cannot find SI-6E60A anywhere.
    So, I am hoping someone here can help me, either with instructions or a link to Shimano tech doc SI-6E60A.
    In case of puncture, I would like to know how to remove the wheel.

    One other question: Will 16 x 1.5 tubes into my 16 x 1 3/8 tires?
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    A quick Google and you can get it here; 1 meg, English, and I managed to download.

    http://www.paul-lange.de/produkte/sh...0A-EN.pdf/view

    On this page:

    http://www.paul-lange.de/search?Sear...eutral&x=7&y=6

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    Quote Originally Posted by bangkok View Post
    A quick Google and you can get it here; 1 meg, English, and I managed to download.

    http://www.paul-lange.de/produkte/sh...0A-EN.pdf/view

    On this page:

    http://www.paul-lange.de/search?Sear...eutral&x=7&y=6
    Many thanks, Bangkok. For some reason, when I googled I came up blank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boston blackie View Post
    Will 16 x 1.5 tubes into my 16 x 1 3/8 tires?
    You can make them work. The risk of pinching the tube is somewhat elevated. Be careful and patient, and you should be okay.

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    The listed document is actually how to disconnect the cable so you can remove the shifter, perhaps not too useful in the event of a puncture.

    For disconnecting the cable and removing the wheel, see SI-4R35A from the Shimano Tech Docs page.

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    1.5 inch in a 1 3/8n should be ok. Check if 1 3/8 were included on the suitable applications marked on the tube box is if you still have it. 1.5 in a 1 1/8 tyre will not be in my experience.

    Why did you buy the D4 over the D9?

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    Isn't a 16 x 1.5 a 305mm, while 16 x 1 3/8 is a 349mm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JCFlack View Post
    Isn't a 16 x 1.5 a 305mm, while 16 x 1 3/8 is a 349mm?
    no, this refers to the wheel rim diameter,not the width of the tyre

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    Quote Originally Posted by bhkyte View Post
    1.5 inch in a 1 3/8n should be ok. Check if 1 3/8 were included on the suitable applications marked on the tube box is if you still have it. 1.5 in a 1 1/8 tyre will not be in my experience.

    Why did you buy the D4 over the D9?
    I tested the D9 and didn't like the way it shifted. The D4 shifted smooth and felt good. However, after 50 miles I find the bike very noisy. It clinks and clanks along (drives me nuts)!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bhkyte View Post
    no, this refers to the wheel rim diameter,not the width of the tyre
    Exactly, so wouldn't you have to stretch a tube meant for a 305mm rim to fit it on a 349mm rim? Or if the other way around, wouldn't the fit be too loose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boston blackie View Post
    I tested the D9 and didn't like the way it shifted. The D4 shifted smooth and felt good. However, after 50 miles I find the bike very noisy. It clinks and clanks along (drives me nuts)!
    Points to check for noise;
    1/rear hinge for excessive slack ,they are adjustable.
    2/allen key bolts that tighten up the stem hinge,however if you over tighten these it would move.
    3/play in headset
    4/you are tightening the front QR aren't you? Dangerous if not.
    5/seatpost clamp tight enought ,newer versions 2005+ are solid anyway.
    6/check chain clearence on the folding guild near the front gog.
    7/check rear rack tightness

    Else get spokes checked for tension.

    I have 2 Mezzos', no noise on mine other than the seatpost clamp on the older version,which I can always change to the newer version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JCFlack View Post
    Exactly, so wouldn't you have to stretch a tube meant for a 305mm rim to fit it on a 349mm rim? Or if the other way around, wouldn't the fit be too loose.
    inner tubes usually come in a number of suitable applications. ie an 18" will fit a 16" bike,one needs to check the specs.

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    OK, I returned the 1 1/2 inch tubes to my local bike shop, and I am taking the bike back to Bfold today to investigate the noise. In truth I would like to return the bike and exchange for another, but I don't think that is possible with Bfold. I will follow up later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boston blackie View Post
    OK, I returned the 1 1/2 inch tubes to my local bike shop, and I am taking the bike back to Bfold today to investigate the noise. In truth I would like to return the bike and exchange for another, but I don't think that is possible with Bfold. I will follow up later.

    DO you mean to swop for another model? IF so
    What is it you do not like about the bike?

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    Unless there is types out there I have not seen remowing rear wheel and shifter cabel on a nexus is the same for 7 speed and four speed. I find t easy (once you understand the system) and this is the main reason I really like the Nexus hubs. Also the fackt that there is no clickboks sticking out is great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badmother View Post
    Unless there is types out there I have not seen remowing rear wheel and shifter cabel on a nexus is the same for 7 speed and four speed. I find t easy (once you understand the system) and this is the main reason I really like the Nexus hubs. Also the fackt that there is no clickboks sticking out is great.
    You can use a Sram IHG without the click box if you prefer. Just use a toggle chain as old sytle Sternley Archer used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bhkyte View Post
    You can use a Sram IHG without the click box if you prefer. Just use a toggle chain as old sytle Sternley Archer used.
    Really? Pix or link?

    I just started realising that the Sram is a good hub, good range and need less maintenance than Nexus. Stilllike the "no nonsens, nothing sticking out" setuo of the Nexus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badmother View Post
    Really? Pix or link?

    I just started realising that the Sram is a good hub, good range and need less maintenance than Nexus. Stilllike the "no nonsens, nothing sticking out" setuo of the Nexus.
    I haven't actually tried it on anything other than dual drive, picture attached. I will add a close up,but I am having problems uploading it.
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    follow up

    i was skeptical, to say the least, that my problems with the Mezzo I 4 would be solved, but, David at bfold
    definitely knows his stuff. Tightening the bb bearings solved one problem, and a little grease on the seat tube clamp shim, voila, problems solved. Now I am very happy with the bike. I enjoyed a great ride around the city today. The four speed hub, I feel, is great for NYC riding, and fills the bill also for riding in the Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts where I have my home. It is heavy to lift and carry, however, so be advised if you are considering the four speed hub.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boston blackie View Post
    a little grease on the seat tube clamp shim, voila, problems solved.
    Thanks, I will try this on my older version. I might just get the newer seat post clamp, as it is much better clamp.I will see how much it is.

    Yes I agree with your comments about the bike in a city, but i have upgraded the gearing and added bullhorns. I find this makes it much faster, it then becomes more of a tourer or a fast city bike. See my upgrading a mezzo thread for details"

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    He removed the clamp and greased the lower portion that goes over the frame. No grease where the seat tube touches the clamp shim.

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