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    Just bought a MOULTON F-frame 1965!

    Hey Guys! Im so happy! i just bought a 1965 Moulton!



    Ive been reading a lot, and moultons seem to be pefect for my commute, the new ones make me salivate, but the price is simply out of my range.

    i think it will cost around 400 shipped (won the ebay, dont know the shipping cost), and the seller didnt really tell me a lot about the bike, he stated teh bike was in good shape, and that it worked correctly...i guess thats enough, but upon reading a bit more, i discovered that between 62 and 67 many moultons were produced at a car factory (MINI) and their assembly line wasnt the best, mostly because the dindt greese components correctly, creating a problem for us 50 years later...

    i guess this can be addressed with patience.....i would love to discuss vintage moultons a bit more, because ive found little forum discussions.

    cheers,

    echotraveler

    P.S. its funny how this nonfolding bike is addresed as a folder, hehe i guess the only reason being this is the mother of folding bikes.
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    Next stop, the Yahoo Moulton group:

    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/moultonbicycle/

    Then, the Moulton Bicycle Club:

    http://www.moultoneers.info/

    Folks nearly always mention that new Moulton bicycles are expensive. Perhaps, but my LBS is stuffed with bikes that cost more (some far, far more) than a TSR9.

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    truth... im still afraid of spending more than 1k....i did and my bike got stolen withing 4 months =-( ...thugs broke entered and scored a very hefty price.

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    Congratulations! I know the excitement you're going through. I restored a 1970 Moulton MK3 about a year ago. Here's the thread I started on the subject: Restoration project - 1970 Moulton MKIII

    Everything worked out well for me. Resources and parts are easy to find in the UK (and probably Japan, from what I hear). Moultons are wonderful bikes with a rich history. Hope you have a great time with it. Any major plans for upgrades or restoration?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SesameCrunch View Post
    Congratulations! I know the excitement you're going through. I restored a 1970 Moulton MK3 about a year ago. Here's the thread I started on the subject: Restoration project - 1970 Moulton MKIII

    Everything worked out well for me. Resources and parts are easy to find in the UK (and probably Japan, from what I hear). Moultons are wonderful bikes with a rich history. Hope you have a great time with it. Any major plans for upgrades or restoration?

    WOW thats one great BIKE!!! MK3 is so nice!!!!

    well im thinking of at least servicing the suspension and new wheels.....after i get that i might dress her up a bit...but super good looking bikes need to be stored, i want to use this in semi-high crime areas, so bit up looking might do the trick =-)



    EDIT: The seller just gave me great newz about my Moulton, it seems the bike was built on AVON factory! NICE! and the suspesion is in perfect working order.
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    Congratulations, that is a very nice looking series 1.
    I bought my first F frame Moulton 5 weeks ago. it is a 1963 Speed which has been modified a fair bit. It rides OK but I still have some work to do on it.


    My Dad then decided that he wanted a Moulton so we picked up this 1965 deluxe model 3 weeks ago. It needed a lot of work but we striped, painted and got it rideable again.


    Yesterday he bought this, a 1966 deluxe with a set of North Road Bars (took off the rear box as soon as he got home). Rides OK.



    Iíve just won this series 1 an hour ago. Been repainted, but I was rather drawn to the colour.



    So that will be 4 Moulton F frames in the family, I guess you could say we have caught the Moulton bug.........
    and Iím also waiting delivery on a another new bike but this time with drop bars, STI levers & 20 gears

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    WOW DUDE! 4 MOULTONS IN 2 MONTHS! that hardcore~!!! love that red bike with the pointy end!!! is super nice...how did the blue one endup? love that winered one, i guess a prettier box or bag would be in order too.

    the yellow repaint is very nice! man you got yourself a moulton fleet...lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by echotraveler View Post
    WOW DUDE! 4 MOULTONS IN 2 MONTHS! that hardcore~!!! love that red bike with the pointy end!!! is super nice...how did the blue one endup? love that winered one, i guess a prettier box or bag would be in order too.

    the yellow repaint is very nice! man you got yourself a moulton fleet...lol
    The photos of bikes 2,3 & 4 are all from the seller’s adds.

    My 1963 was striped and cleaned and now sports a Brooks saddle and I plan to change the handle bars. It came with 17” alloy rims a 57 tooth chain wheel, 5 speed cassette and I changed the pedals for a set of new MKS quick release.

    The Blue 1965 has had the front suspension stripedm, the frame repainted red and had a Brooks saddle fitted. It still needs new brake cables and a few little things sorting out.

    We are working on the maroon 1966 bike at the moment, it does need some work but we will probably keep it looking pretty much as it does at present.

    Once the yellow one arrives I will fit it with a pair of Schwalbe Stelvio tyres and maybe a set of drop bars.

    I will add some new photos at the weekend.

    anyway, lets see some more photos of your bike once it arrives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by echotraveler View Post
    truth... im still afraid of spending more than 1k....i did and my bike got stolen withing 4 months =-( ...thugs broke entered and scored a very hefty price.
    I completely understand how you feel. I'm afraid of spending any more than a few hundred dollars on anything now due to theft. Sorry that happened to you.

    But on the bright side, that Moulton looks very nice. You, sir, have excellent taste.
    Ride what you like. Ride in what you like.

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    Here are some links that you may find interesting, I know they have proved useful to me:

    http://www.classicrendezvous.com/Bri...ulton_Hist.htm
    http://www.classicrendezvous.com/Bri...ulton_home.htm
    http://www.tomkiss.net/blog/dads_1964_moulton_safari
    http://www.hadland.me.uk/moult.html
    http://www.northroadbicycle.com/index.php
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/worksmoulton/

    I also recently read an article detailing the difference between the series 1 & 2 and the Bradford upon Avon built bikes and the Kirby built bikes. But I can't find it now. I know my 63’ is a Bradford upon Avon built bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KitN View Post
    ... on the bright side, that Moulton looks very nice. You, sir, have excellent taste.
    THANX i like being different and Moulton is REALLY a rare find here in Puerto Rico.

    Quote Originally Posted by PDR View Post
    Here are some links that you may find interesting, I know they have proved useful to me:

    http://www.classicrendezvous.com/Bri...ulton_Hist.htm
    http://www.classicrendezvous.com/Bri...ulton_home.htm
    http://www.tomkiss.net/blog/dads_1964_moulton_safari
    http://www.hadland.me.uk/moult.html
    http://www.northroadbicycle.com/index.php
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/worksmoulton/

    I also recently read an article detailing the difference between the series 1 & 2 and the Bradford upon Avon built bikes and the Kirby built bikes. But I can't find it now. I know my 63í is a Bradford upon Avon built bike.
    PDR, when you get more pics plz post them, and let me know, your experience with this bikes will help me a lot. thanx for the links.

    i read about the 62 to 67 doing a search in google "moulton rear suspension"

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    Quote Originally Posted by echotraveler View Post
    Looks just like the one I bought new in the Summer of 1964 through Montgomery Ward. I was one happy 13-year-old. I finally sold it in December 2004 (still ridable, but needing a lot of TLC). My current 2004 Dahon Speed P8 looks very similar to me.

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    I too am bought an eBay Moulton and should have it within a week. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT

    Thanks for posting all the great links.

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    some good bikes

    Ive had about 4 moultons over the years.
    Learned to go a bike on a coaster braked seperable model.
    Had a Mini that I got for £4 at a car boot sale. It was good. Just reved out all the time as the gears were very low on 14" wheels.

    Would like a Moulton now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schwinnsta View Post
    I too am bought an eBay Moulton and should have it within a week. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT

    Thanks for posting all the great links.
    YOU GOT A GREAT DEAL! 207~! i was hoping for the same but at the las 60seconds a sniper took it up to 270 argh

    Quote Originally Posted by griftereck View Post
    some good bikes

    Ive had about 4 moultons over the years.
    Learned to go a bike on a coaster braked seperable model.
    Had a Mini that I got for £4 at a car boot sale. It was good. Just reved out all the time as the gears were very low on 14" wheels.

    Would like a Moulton now.
    you should keep an eye open on ebay. theres always a "new" moulton coming in.
    what do you mean about the coaster brake?

    Quote Originally Posted by HGR3inOK View Post
    Looks just like the one I bought new in the Summer of 1964 through Montgomery Ward. I was one happy 13-year-old. I finally sold it in December 2004 (still ridable, but needing a lot of TLC). My current 2004 Dahon Speed P8 looks very similar to me.
    i guess a 1960's bike will need some tlc, hope its not that much, if its rust free ill just keep the original paint..i dont want this bike stolen because its simply too nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schwinnsta View Post
    I too am bought an eBay Moulton and should have it within a week. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT

    Thanks for posting all the great links.
    I did watch that bike as it is interesting to see what they fetch over there in the USA.
    Nice bike bought at a fair price, congratulations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PDR View Post
    I did watch that bike as it is interesting to see what they fetch over there in the USA.
    Nice bike bought at a fair price, congratulations.
    it seems strange how this bikes are sold cheap in US and UK bay auctions are pretty pricy IMO(most of them).


    i would have thought it would be the opposite, but i guess Moultons have a really limited market, either you have a lot of money for a new one or your a strange cyclist with crazy cycling needs lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by echotraveler View Post
    it seems strange how this bikes are sold cheap in US and UK bay auctions are pretty pricy IMO(most of them).


    i would have thought it would be the opposite, but i guess Moultons have a really limited market, either you have a lot of money for a new one or your a strange cyclist with crazy cycling needs lol
    Yes because it is the likes of the guy we call “Lovejoy”* who is pushing up prices .. see my other post (which you have already replied to): Mouton F frame da ja vue (e-bay)

    *Lovejoy is a TV series about the adventures of Lovejoy, a British antiques dealer based in East Anglia whose scruples are not always the highest.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lovejoy

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    lovejoy, never heard that before...thanx

    the seller just gave shipping cost 120.00, my final price tag is 394.99 lol lets round it up to 400...i hoped to get it for less, but imo it aint a bad deal at all, but not cheap either.

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    Awesome! I have a 1964 moulton that I was gonna restore over the summer (project has been put on hold due to bad economy ). I bet you're excited about yours! It's a lovely bike with lots of history.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nekohime View Post
    Awesome! I have a 1964 moulton that I was gonna restore over the summer (project has been put on hold due to bad economy ). I bet you're excited about yours! It's a lovely bike with lots of history.
    the bad economy should be the trigger for a nice restore im super excited bro!! now i wait for paypal and usps, great times!

    i just moved to a great apartment on the Old San Juan (historical colonial city) and i want to make good use of public transport + my bike...im thinking its gonna be a 8 mile commute at most...i really feel bad about using a car for such a small distance.
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    any of you know someone that reproduces decals fro this vintage moultons...

    some days ago i read a thread some user said they did this work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by echotraveler View Post
    any of you know someone that reproduces decals fro this vintage moultons...

    some days ago i read a thread some user said they did this work.
    I have seen them on eBay in the UK.

    Also, you can order decals on eBay in the Compacta font for the model names on the frame.

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    Transfers for most models.
    Black or white. Simple to fit by water slide.
    Pair £4.50+SAE
    Headbadges, Series 1, 2 or Mk3 £4.50+SAE
    Julian Kowalewski, 33 Village Way, Beckenham, Kent, BR3 3NA

    If you join the Moulton yahoo group you will be able to contact Julian via e-mail.

    Hope this helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PDR View Post
    Transfers for most models.
    Black or white. Simple to fit by water slide.
    Pair £4.50+SAE
    Headbadges, Series 1, 2 or Mk3 £4.50+SAE
    Julian Kowalewski, 33 Village Way, Beckenham, Kent, BR3 3NA

    If you join the Moulton yahoo group you will be able to contact Julian via e-mail.

    Hope this helps.
    great info PDR! thanx

    do you know what model i bought?? i know mine is the first series but im not sure what the name could be?

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