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    Wife gets her new Friday, next Friday!

    Will be back in the Northwest by end of next week when we will take delivery of wife's new Bike Friday, on appropriately, Friday.

    It will be an eight-speed Pocket 8, and her comparison of it to her 2007, custom-built, 27-speed Pocket Crusoe will be interesting. I will post her thoughts and reactions after she has had a chance to ride it a couple of times - Northwest weather permitting.

    I am taking a set of our current Bike Friday fenders back with me, as they will likely be a necessary accessory.

    To be continued...
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    REPORT #1

    Wife's initial reaction:
    1) It's not a Pocket Crusoe (her main bike).
    2) I should have gotten a tikit (she likes the way it folds quickly and with far less playing around).
    3) Why did we spend so much money?
    4) Fourth gear is making noise (since solved).
    5) It's harder to shift than her Crusoe. (Twist shifters on both - 8-speed vs. 9-speed)
    6) The stock seat is same type as her Crusoe (she likes that seat) but without the cut-out.

    I had no problem spending the $ to get her a good bike, and will sell this one and get her a tikit if she ultimately wants a tikit. However, she will need to test this bike out first and also spend some time test riding a tikit.

    My initial reaction:

    1) Small, hard hand grips and a too-wide handle bar - personally, I'd cut 3/4" off at each end & install thicker, foam hand grips.
    2) Plastic, non-folding pedals - wife wanta to give them a try.
    3) Surprised to see it came with Presta valves. Going to add Aluminum collars and caps like on her Crusoe.
    4) Components are of lesser quality than on our custom Fridays - to be expected. Frame is the same as current Fridays except for lack of front derailleur mount, curved leg forks and only one set of water bottle braze-ons vs. two on her Crusoe and three on my NWT.
    5) Comes w/o kickstand. Local dealer didn't order the $8 kickstand from BF per my e-mail so I ordered it today.
    6) Existing BF fenders fit fine.
    7) Set it up to measurements of her Crusoe - she said it felt good.
    8) Installed an on-hand bar-end mirror after cutting off the end of the left-hand grip.
    9) "Easy-pack" seat post appears to have enough adjustment to allow use of existing Thudbuster seat post from her Crusoe.

    It was raining on-and-off today so we just got in about mile ride around our condo complex. Will report more once she has had a chance to do some normal riding.

    Lou
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    Thanks for the report. I hope she enjoys it.

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    Yea I second Lalato. I hope your wife has a lot of fun on her new Pocket 8. Seems like really nice bike for the money.

    In my bike club, there is an older couple who both ride Bikefriday New World Tourist models. He first bought hers, and liked it so much that she bought him one. That was pretty cool.



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    Quote Originally Posted by edwong3 View Post
    In my bike club, there is an older couple who both ride Bikefriday New World Tourist models. He first bought hers, and liked it so much that she bought him one. That was pretty cool.

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    It's all one pot of money, so not really one of us buying it for the other. Wife worries the money will not last - we retired early (57 & 55) and equity in property has plummeted and hard to get any return on cash and 401K's.

    It rained most of day, today, so she didn't get to ride it today. Supposedly clearing on Monday.

    I installed one of our BF racks on her new bike as well as a rear Blinky, a kickstand and a folding mirror I had on hand. Amazing that the kickstand I ordered from Bike Friday early yesterday afternoon got here around 12:30PM today via Fedex Ground (we don't get U.S. Mail delivered at this address - it would have been cheaper).

    Looking good - here's the bike so far.

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    No rain most of the day today. We rode out to have breakfast then do some errands.

    Wife was bummed-out when she found that her new BF had an "automatic" transmission. It would, for no good reason, shift from 4th to 5th and back to 4th and back to 5thmand back to 4th, etc., every 200-300 feet! I made some adjustments at one point, and though the gear indicator was now wrong, it didn't jump around as she rode.

    Also, a related problem: The hand grip on the right side was cut too narrow, putting a large part of the riders hand on the Grip Shifter handle resulting in it shifting 2-3 gears higher as one held onto the handle bar as they got onto the bike. Some of this results from an overly easy ability to shift to a higher gear. In addition, the grips that GG used are much thinner than the grip shifter, itself.

    Wife was wondering why we paid so much for, what was in her eyes, an unsatisfactory bike. She was also comparing this bike with the performance of her 27-speed, custom Crusoe. It has a superior (and obviously more expensive) SRAM Grip Shifter.

    Back to the dealer, Coventry Cycles. The derailleur gear shifting was adjusted, and I discussed several types of solutions with the tech. 1) Thicker, longer hand grips, and 2) an 8-speed trigger shifter. (Unfortunately, the current grip shifter does not have a friction adjustment.)

    Wife didn't like the hand grips at the shop, so we went back to Performance Bike where we had seen what she felt had some acceptable hand grips. $7 later we drove home and I installed the new hand grips after measuring and trimming the right one. She likes the feel and the increase in the amount of hand room on the right side. However, it's dark and raining now, so she has not been able to do a couple of laps around the block to test the Low $ solution.

    The bike rides fine and must be very comfortable because she hasn't said a peep about ride quality.

    I am going to pass my reactions on to GG, even though it's likely someone from there will read this post.

    Lou
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    Doesnt Bike Friday have a return policy that you can return the bike in 30 days if you are not satisfied with it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dynocoaster View Post
    Doesnt Bike Friday have a return policy that you can return the bike in 30 days if you are not satisfied with it?
    They do on bikes ordered directly from them, per booklet that came with the bike. Bikes purchased from a dealer carry 'dealers' warranty - (Varies by dealer, obviously.) We are not to that point yet.

    FYI: I have added some pictures of the original and modified hand grips to my last post.

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    Not raining this morning, so once I got all the goodies re-mounted on wife's Pocket 8 we went for about a 3/4 mile leisurely ride around our condo complex.

    The professional adjustment of the derailleur and the new, longer & thicker hand hand grips seems to have done the trick. The bike no longer shifts on it's own and minor hand movement doesn't cause it to shift up 1-3 gears. From a short test ride I took first, I found that most of the rider's right hand grip is now mostly on the hand grip itself and not on what was the far thicker twist shifter. The wider grip area also gives the rider more choice on hand placement. Adjusting the brake handles "up" a bit has also helped.

    So, looks like problems are solved. A couple of longer rides will tell for sure.

    The one good feature of the bike is its "standard" components, so for future modifications (like maybe going to an SRAM 9-speed set-up, like other Fridays, is easily done - as with all bike mods, just add money

    Lou

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    I sent an e-mail with pictures to sales rep, Sandy Earl at BF (she assisted dealer with the order).

    Received very quickly the following reply:

    Hi Lou -
    Thanks for your thoughtful comments.
    It's great to hear from someone who's experienced and can identify and solve problems!
    I've forwarded your comments (and your proposed solution) on to our tech staff.
    Tailwinds,
    Sandy


    Subsequently asked that she inform me of changes, if any, that are made to the Pocket 8.

    Lou
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