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Old 01-28-10, 10:18 PM
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BioLogic ReeCharge

https://www.dahon.com/accessories/201...ogic-reecharge

Obviously, u would need a son hub. But any1 know when will be released in the us and how much?

this would be cool to charge an iphone/blackberry/ipod/gps/other electronic devices etc. for those long touring trip.

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I have some on order
but I dont know the delivery date yet , nor do I know the price ....

I suspect its cheaper than the E - Werk from Busch and Mueller ...
The difference is in laymens terms

E-Werk can be adjusted to a myriad of different charges and comes with tons of different adapters and wires. Its 199 and it is in stock. It is small, black and very sophisticated works on all hub generator, Does NOT have a battery inside which eliminates the use on a Iphone 3b ( whatever its called the latest Apple phone ) additional I phone "backup" battery will be an additional part ( expense ) later in Spring.

https://www.thorusa.com/dahon/accessories/special.htm

Biologic reecharge its a little bigger most likely doe not have the variety of cables as it mostly relies on the usb port. It does have a battery inside which regulats the output to 5 volt and therefore works with the latest I phone. Will work with Son Shimano and Joule Hub generators ( same as the E werk ) most likely a little cheaper than the E werk ( at least I very much hope that ) Comes standard on the Ios Bike XL later in the year....


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Originally Posted by brakemeister
I have some on order
but I dont know the delivery date yet , nor do I know the price ....

I suspect its cheaper than the E - Werk from Busch and Mueller ...
The difference is in laymens terms

E-Werk can be adjusted to a myriad of different charges and comes with tons of different adapters and wires. Its 199 and it is in stock. It is small, black and very sophisticated works on all hub generator, Does NOT have a battery inside which eliminates the use on a Iphone 3b ( whatever its called the latest Apple phone ) additional I phone "backup" battery will be an additional part ( expense ) later in Spring.

https://www.thorusa.com/dahon/accessories/special.htm

Biologic reecharge its a little bigger most likely doe not have the variety of cables as it mostly relies on the usb port. It does have a battery inside which regulats the output to 5 volt and therefore works with the latest I phone. Will work with Son Shimano and Joule Hub generators ( same as the E werk ) most likely a little cheaper than the E werk ( at least I very much hope that ) Comes standard on the Ios Bike XL later in the year....
According to this press release from Dahon the ReeCharge will be €79, which is about 40% cheaper than the E-werk.

However, the ReeCharge is stuck to providing output power only to USB specification, which is IMO quite limiting in terms of the kinds of devices you can use. Many devices can't be powered by USB, particularly ones which aren't rinky dink telephones. For example I'd like to get a rice cooker for my bike and I don't think a USB power source will be sufficient.

Also, as some of you may know, many electronic devices have undocumented circuit features which can be activated by providing the appropriate voltage and current. For example, I have a laptop computer which will run if the input voltage is between 6-7, but not charge the battery unless the voltage is between 7-9. So one of the nice things about the E-werk is that you can set the exact output voltage and current to manipulate these sorts of things. Who knows, you may even be able to coax the iPhone 3b into doing what you want.

Finally, in my experience the most problematic component of any portable electronic device is the battery. Due to technological barriers, I've always found such batteries (for phones, computers, etc) to be unsatisfactory and I don't expect this to improve any time soon if ever. So in my view using a battery in the ReeCharge to solve problems like the iPhone 3b is a hack that will ultimately create more headaches than it's worth as the battery deteriorates, not to mention the big efficiency penalty compared to fully electronic regulation. I'd much rather seek ways to minimize the use of batteries and power devices directly as much as possible.

So, all in all, while I think the ReeCharge will be a more suitable device for people who are just looking to charge their phones, I don't see it as really being a substitute to the versatility and efficiency of the E-werk.

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The 79 Euro would be roughly 120 dlr.
The battery is a 1600 mAh Lithium polymer battery ( which I understand can be replaced rather easily )

I think you got the meat of it chucky
I dont fully agree with your battery feelings as that one will last for a long long time and than can be replaced easily, but I do understand the gist of it.

I think the I phone is special ( well certainly in the eyes of their owners who paid a pretty penny for it ) and it will categoryly not accept any charge which is fluctuatian and therefor in any cas e needs a battery.
With the Ewerk being as sophisticated ( albeit expensive) I think Dahons logic was more plug and play and
Although I thought it was kinda away from the market I learned that somehow 9 millin I phones were sold in last 3 months of 09 ... AND more at home, I sold quite a few of I phone cases .. so I am eager to proove my initial resistance wrong.

Thanks Chucky for the detailed descriptions
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Originally Posted by vincentnyc
Obviously, u would need a son hub.

No, according to the site you linked to, "Works with most standards-based dynamo hubs on any bike." I imagine it would even work with a sidewall dynamo.
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Originally Posted by rhm
No, according to the site you linked to, "Works with most standards-based dynamo hubs on any bike." I imagine it would even work with a sidewall dynamo.
yeah u right...according to the description...u dont even need a hub either...charge it against a wall outlet before u ride and u r set.

btw...what is a side wall dynamo?
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of course if you charge it on the wall and just suck the energy out of it without genrator it would be very similar to a 1600 lithuim battery. must be two in there :-) comes to think of it ...
better than nothing and surely a nice little energy boost though

yes it should really work with any 6 volt generator
here are a few https://www.peterwhitecycles.com/dymotec.asp

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btw...what is a side wall dynamo?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bottle_dynamo



(image from https://www.myra-simon.com/bike/dynamos.html which also has good information on the topic)

As for the iPhone 3G / 3GS and the iPod touch 2nd / 3rd gen, there are further solutions to charging them than trying to fiddle with settings until they are coaxed to work.

There is a device called the Scosche passport that allows these models to charge with devices that used to charge old iPods, but won't charge these newer models.

And if someone was going to use their Reecharge as a simple battery without using the hub dynamo capability, there are better options. I have a Brunton Solo 3.4 that's smaller than the Reecharge and holds quite a bit higher capacity. It was $39 CDN.
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If anyone wants a used sidewall dynamo, pm me. A fellow bf member sent me a whole box of 'em, all old and disreputable looking, but I'm sure I can find something that works. No lamps, just dynamos.
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Originally Posted by brakemeister
I dont fully agree with your battery feelings as that one will last for a long long time and than can be replaced easily, but I do understand the gist of it.
You can take it as electronic retro grouchiness.

Originally Posted by brakemeister
With the Ewerk being as sophisticated ( albeit expensive) I think Dahons logic was more plug and play
Oh I definitely agree and like most of Dahon's products I fully expect the ReeCharge to do better on the market than it's competitors because it specifically targets what most people want/need at a lower price. Unfortunately for me I am not like most people and my needs are usually different: I want to reduce my battery dependence and I want to power a rice cooker.
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Originally Posted by chucky
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Unfortunately for me I am not like most people and my needs are usually different: I want to reduce my battery dependence and I want to power a rice cooker.
if u want to reduce ur battery dependence...then dont bring any electronic devices on ur tour and cook ur rice old school with fire. and if u want to reduce ur dependency on matches, start ur fire old school with friction. and if u want reduce ur dependency on toilet paper, use tree leaves etc etc.

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Originally Posted by vincentnyc
if u want to reduce ur battery dependence...then dont bring any electronic devices on ur tour and cook ur rice old school with fire. and if u want to reduce ur dependency on matches, start ur fire old school with friction. and if u want reduce ur dependency on toilet paper, use tree leaves etc etc.
That's like saying if you want to reduce your dependence on petrol then just don't go anywhere. Yeah that's one way to do it, but why would you when you can just ride a bike? Same thing here: I don't have to forgo electronic devices because I can generate DC power directly with the E-werk.
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Originally Posted by chucky
That's like saying if you want to reduce your dependence on petrol then just don't go anywhere. Yeah that's one way to do it, but why would you when you can just ride a bike? Same thing here: I don't have to forgo electronic devices because I can generate DC power directly with the E-werk.
Exactly my point.
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Originally Posted by vincentnyc
Exactly my point.
In order to reduce battery dependence I don't have to forgo electronic devices because I can generate DC power directly with the E-werk.
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Originally Posted by chucky
For example I'd like to get a rice cooker for my bike and I don't think a USB power source will be sufficient.
Adding a rice cooker to your bike should not be a problem, just connect it to the 110VAC feed that you already use for the washer and fridge.

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Originally Posted by chucky
In order to reduce battery dependence I don't have to forgo electronic devices because I can generate DC power directly with the E-werk.
Do u even own a e-werk? So u gonna peddle while u have ur rice cooker on ur bike? After u done peddling, ur rice is ready for u to eat, huh?
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Originally Posted by chucky
The ReeCharge will be €79, which is about 40% cheaper than the E-werk.

However, the ReeCharge is stuck to providing output power only to USB specification, which is IMO quite limiting in terms of the kinds of devices you can use.

So, all in all, while I think the ReeCharge will be a more suitable device for people who are just looking to charge their phones, I don't see it as really being a substitute to the versatility and efficiency of the E-werk.
To be honest I could never see myself going touring again without my mobile phone, and I have met people out there with GPS units....

Never mind the rice cooker, I think the most exciting thing about the E-werk is it's ability to charge the Big Bang, check out this animated gif of how it compares to other lights. Not that anyone really needs a light this crazy, but hey, I'm still excited.
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Originally Posted by chucky
The ReeCharge will be €79, which is about 40% cheaper than the E-werk.

However, the ReeCharge is stuck to providing output power only to USB specification, which is IMO quite limiting in terms of the kinds of devices you can use.

So, all in all, while I think the ReeCharge will be a more suitable device for people who are just looking to charge their phones, I don't see it as really being a substitute to the versatility and efficiency of the E-werk.
To be honest I could never see myself going touring again without my mobile phone, and I have met people out there with GPS units....

Never mind the rice cooker, I think the most exciting thing about the E-werk is it's ability to charge the Big Bang, check out this animated gif of how it compares to other lights. Not that anyone really needs a light this crazy, but hey, I'm still excited.
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